My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Mafia (Game Over)

[Glork]

i would probably call elsa strong town for this claim irrespective of maria's alignment if not for xyzzy's just-ended game where he did a hilarious claim shenanigan, meaning he's the kind of person who will do hilarious claim shenanigans, in that i don't think a scum tracker would typically hardclaim in that situation to stop a lynch onto the town backup tracker.

he's almost definitely town if maria is scum.

my spiciest read is zito as locktown pending maria flip and probably town even if she flips town

This pair of posts really sticks out to me, esp considering they are about 100 posts apart, when D2 started off with a re-hash of Imp v Maria. I think of the two, Maria was the more likely lynch going into the day, and to basically make the same assertion about both slots (very town if Maria is scum) is a great way to try to sew some pockets of indeed Maria had gotten lynched as scum D2..

[Papa Zito]

Also, if you want to apply the 'refused to bus' logic to me, than you have to apply it to Bins and Zito too. It doesn't really work, and I'd argue that Bins is a much bigger culprit than me, as she had danced around a Maria scumread the entire game, but when push came to shove she wasn't there to lynch her.

Just wanna note that this is not at all true, see votecount 1.19.

Which, incidentally, wrecks my Bins theory from yesterday, which I retract.


plz continue

[Glork]

Or I don't know, maybe not. The writing was on the wall that the worst was going to vote Maria, following him was the easy play.

How was the writing on the wall for that? I was quite proud of that twist.

Once you voted Maria, scum!Glork doesn't really have very many options. Maybe he gets away with going back to me, but busing Maria and getting a mislynch the next day might be a safer play.

See I see it the opposite way. If I’m scum I think the most sensible and strategic play would have been to follow Reck back onto you. Even if things go awry there has been such a strong Glork/Reck connection that he would be lynchbait in the end anyway.

[the worst]

You seemed really interested in my answer, and even requested it a second time. Did you not recognize it as nonsense the first time?

I am interested in you and Bins talking to each other.

[the worst]

Well, process of elimination puts it at Bins/Glork/Zito from my perspective. My initial reaction was to type Bins because all my townreads have been scum and vise versa...ergo Bins, someone who I have been townreading, must be scum. Maria had me pocketed hard, what can I say?

Also, if you want to apply the 'refused to bus' logic to me, than you have to apply it to Bins and Zito too. It doesn't really work, and I'd argue that Bins is a much bigger culprit than me, as she had danced around a Maria scumread the entire game, but when push came to shove she wasn't there to lynch her.

This reaction really fascinates me. I think I have a vca guilty on someone sure but other than that I basically just asked you and Bins to exchange posts and take a bit of a lead today. Why did you react like this?

[Papa Zito]

Arrite, continuing notetaking tomorrow. Maria's wagon took forever, there's a lot to sift through.

[the worst]

Anything spicy so far?

[the worst]

Vca also implicates ep/glork slot uuughh

[Bins]

sorry i havent read anything lol

but worst i think its important you look at my reaction to the zor wagon, like i genuinely wanted maria dead d1 and i wasnt willingly to switch off until hammer. no one buses that hard day 1. just remembered that

[the worst]

it's ok focus on your reaction to T-bone I'll get this right

[the worst]

Bins was that pop in just to tell me that you don't think bussing Maria d1 is within your scumrange?

I'd be more comfortable with you all interacting with each other a whole lot more than interacting with me. After catching Maria on pocketing me, my pocketing radar is on high alert.

[Bins]

nah i just rememebered to say it and didnt wanna forget and it was like 2am lol

[Papa Zito]

Anything spicy so far?

I think so yes. I'll post everything either at lunch today or tonight after I get home unless you'd rather I wait. You're clearly trying to do something here and I don't want to interfere with whatever that is.

[Papa Zito]

i genuinely wanted maria dead d1 and i wasnt willingly to switch off until hammer. no one buses that hard day 1.

Maria herself bussed that hard Day 1 in this very game.

[Bins]

she went back to zor in the very end

Her problem was there was no other viable wagon either than her or implosion for most of day 1

[Bins]

She was one of the first people who moved off implosion to zor in the end

[Papa Zito]

Sure she did. But she spent the entire day talking about implosion. To pretend she wasn't going hard at him is disingenuous at best.

On the flipside, implosion crossbussed fairly hard himself. And if you don't want to count Maria's because she exited the wagon with only hours left on the day, well, he never abandoned hers.

[Bins]

Also yeah worst Im not like super paranoid of tbone being town so I dont even really wanna talk to him hahaha I would much rather just make a case

Pedit - its pretty clear that their bus flopped miserably for them day 1, having no other wagons would have sucked. If i was there partner I would have tried to create another option, which is what you and tbone did

[Papa Zito]

I'd argue their crossbus was too successful and they spent too much energy going after each other than other targets.

I'm not going to let you throw shade at me Bins. If you're going to try to subtly insinuate that my actions were designed to save MariaR and implosion then put all your evidence and arguments on the table. No more wishywashy bullshit plz.

[Bins]

you ignored the implosion and maria wagons all of day 1, there aint much to show lol

[Bins]

i have this small paranoia that maria went into the day knowing she was fucked

i mean for her to be scum with you, she essentially bussed you all of yesterday, which means the other scumbuddy would have either tried to get someone else lynched or bus as well, which is the only uncertainty i have about glork

But that doesnt mean i think what you and tbone did was a stretch for scum

[Papa Zito]

you ignored the implosion and maria wagons all of day 1, there aint much to show lol

I can demonstrate both of these are false. Can you demonstrate both of these are true?

[Bins]

how do i present evidence of something that didn't happen

just quote posts to show that you even cared lol

[Bins]

Ok so that was a rollercoaster.

FTR that was a great shot Penguin, I'm as surprised as you probably were that it didn't work out. Kinda wish you'd shot zor so you could still be here tho.

Another FTR is I don't support implo wagons but simultaneously I don't get how no hammer happened on a VT claim. This town is dysfunctional as fk.

VOTE: Maria I guess as I've liked literally nothing she's posted.

this is like.. it

yawn

you tunnelled zor but surprise you actually didnt like anything maria posted! wow!


cmon dude I'll sell you on Tbone on the off chance that you're town

[Bins]

It's a false question. A) I clarified my thoughts to you in the post I just made. B) even without that, I said "I think Maria's flip makes Bins scum". To which Bins quotes me and asks "what about my reaction to Maria makes me scum?" So I'm asking you. Why is Bins question anything but fluff?

i don't even know what you mean by this

why would scum me go into yesterday bussing maria, only to quit when it seemed like she was doomed

maybe im just town that got cold feet about a read

this is the whole reason i wanted maria dead earlier is because i knew she would AtE me in LYLO