My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Mafia (Game Over)

[Bins]

also my maria townread made sense in the context of my townread of you, but as soon as i lost that, i went back to scumreading maria

[Bins]

fuck im also paranoid worst didnt die because of glork townread, but i mean reck was the same so i guess not

today is zito or tbone day

[Papa Zito]

Bins making pronouncements.

Where's the T-Bone sell? Where's the Zito sell? You can't just will things into being.

[Bins]

lmfao shut up you literally spent a million years yesterday making a case on me

i'm at work and just got back from a trip, i'm just saying that if worst or townyou wants a case, i'd rather do that then react to things i dont really care about

[Glork]

I just spent my entire lunch break going back to re-read D1 ISO’s and I am really conflicted.

Zito did engage with Maria on D1, but mostly to the extent that he was defending Implosion from Maria’s arguments (and in a way almost chainsawing her for them). That feels like a somewhat weird interaction triangle if they’re all scum together.

[Papa Zito]

lmfao shut up you literally spent a million years yesterday making a case on me

i'm at work and just got back from a trip, i'm just saying that if worst or townyou wants a case, i'd rather do that then react to things i dont really care about

I literally just asked you to make a case on us. Hello?

[Bins]

and i said i will? Hello?

[Bins]

I just spent my entire lunch break going back to re-read D1 ISO’s and I am really conflicted.

Zito did engage with Maria on D1, but mostly to the extent that he was defending Implosion from Maria’s arguments (and in a way almost chainsawing her for them). That feels like a somewhat weird interaction triangle if they’re all scum together.

dawg i did literally the same and pushed maria and defended implosion.

[Bins]

but he only voted maria at the end

[Bins]

not to mention EP also voted maria repeatedly and defended implosion

It wasnt a hot take

But the way zito did it was worse

[Bins]

Implosion is a terrible wagon target.

like is this the defense

Is there more

[Papa Zito]

@worst, can you please read 1600 to ~1660? I think this is a key interaction.

[Glork]

I just spent my entire lunch break going back to re-read D1 ISO’s and I am really conflicted.

Zito did engage with Maria on D1, but mostly to the extent that he was defending Implosion from Maria’s arguments (and in a way almost chainsawing her for them). That feels like a somewhat weird interaction triangle if they’re all scum together.

dawg i did literally the same and pushed maria and defended implosion.

The difference is that the Maria/Implo thing came across as the crux of Zito’s argument. Your reasons for going after Maria had more to do with her interactions with you specifically rather than her take on Implo.

[Glork]

But you’re right in that it *is* worth noting that unless T-Bone is the only scum left, Maria was def involved in some heavy distancing early on, and that is partly why I feel conflicted right now. That’s already more D1 interaction than I typically see, and now it comes down to parsing the differences between those interactions and determining where the bad seed(s) is/are.

[the worst]

Go ahead and case it please, Bins.

[the worst]

@worst, can you please read 1600 to ~1660? I think this is a key interaction.

I'm definitely getting Maria-Tbone energy from this series of posts. Both the push against Bins by Maria and Bins' reaction to Maria's push are fairly hard to actually believe but I somewhat liked that Bins kept trying to engage/see reason--Tbone's pop-ins were fairly net neutral and the conversation between Maria/Tbone felt like something they both wanted out of.

I'm not sure it's really clearing anyone for me rn but there's a good chance there were some s/s interactions in there somewhere.

What's your takeaway from it?

[the worst]

Tbh a lot of my concerns and reservations are because not much flipped scum did d1 had a lot of teeth. like they were very vocal itt but also pretty stingy with their votes and even of the parts where they were vocal I'm not really sure I'm seeing lots of clearing stuff.

That said I'm lightly tunnelled on scum!Bins and I'm wary of that

[the worst]

I'm back to tunnelling harder on scum!bone.
Is it weird that I'm townreading you primarily for your reaction to being voted yday, comments shading my abilities when I expected to be pocketed, etc.?

[the worst]

Also because Maria tried to lynch you yday ig and I actually think she was going for the win/didn't expect to be sniped but this game is so full of scum theatre regardless of who it is that it's hurting my brain

[the worst]

Whoever is town here: you're so lucky you only have 3 slots to sort. Every time I start to solve assuming someone is town I get paranoid of them. I'm having nightmares about this game. Thanks for listening.

[the worst]

Also because Maria tried to lynch you yday ig and I actually think she was going for the win/didn't expect to be sniped but this game is so full of scum theatre regardless of who it is that it's hurting my brain

So with this gamestate Bins is ~lockscum via yday
She didn't really engage Maria (or really anything which is p consistent with allowing a scumbud to powerwolf), soft defended her when I gave her the openings to, shaded my logic that there was no attempt at collusion in {Glork, zito, reck} to force a qh or coordinate votes, then literally tried to start a counter-wagon on now-flipped-town when I acted like my Maria vote wasn't something I was super serious about

but we do run up against the possibility Maria *wasn't* going for the win and was using yday to distance because she was concerned about the existing s/s reads between her and implo in which case her best move is to try and spew a buddy (probably you) town and move on from there: in this world I'm concerned about Glork.

tbh I think the first world is more likely given I don't think Maria realised what I was doing and we were so close to the deadline

I don't think the team is literally Glork/Zito and while I don't think there is a whole lot clearing Bins/Tbone I have this niggling feeling that's not literally the team. Having said that it could easily be. Feel better about Zito than Glork outside of that duo regardless.

[Glork]

From my perspective I think Maria was going for the win earlier in the day, and when I started getting town read later on I think she shifted her attention to Zito. As I alluded to before, I am trying to wrap my head around whether the switch was an alternative attempt to win, or whether she was trying to save face / create distance with a bus attempt.

At this moment I am leaning towards T-Bone/Zito but I’ve also spun the wheel to both other possibilities at different points this afternoon.

[Glork]

Like T-Bone/Bins makes a fair bit of sense to me, too. I think Bins/Zito is ~probably~ the least likely combo out of the three.

Going back and reading Bins’s reads and interactions from yesterday she kept giving herself windows to vote/shade Maria and T-Bone but kept rolling back to Reck/Zito.

[the worst]

From your perspective, what exactly changed to make her shift to Zito?

[the worst]

Like T-Bone/Bins makes a fair bit of sense to me, too. I think Bins/Zito is ~probably~ the least likely combo out of the three.

Going back and reading Bins’s reads and interactions from yesterday she kept giving herself windows to vote/shade Maria and T-Bone but kept rolling back to Reck/Zito.

This exactly yeah. Bins/Tbone is by far the most obvious solve hence why I came into today begging them to spew alignment for me.