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Post Post #9175 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:16 pm

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Like I'd lynch you just off your play so far TSE, ngl
>skipped NA
>stalled when asked for NA results
>no straight answers about hood interactions

your iso on its own is already gross LOL
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Post Post #9176 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:17 pm

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I didn’t even look at the playerlist.
I legit didn’t get to the thread until my first post here.
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Post Post #9177 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 9171, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 9169, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Well then you’ll feel disappointed if you end up miss lynching me.
I'd be disappointed in Creature if he was town here but I wouldn't be disappointed in myself for misreading an iso that bad with votes that scummy
I don’t think it was the scummy.
He seemed incline to vote Emperor.
What are you seeing?
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Post Post #9178 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:19 pm

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In post 9175, Weiss Schnee wrote:Like I'd lynch you just off your play so far TSE, ngl
>skipped NA
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stalled
when asked for NA results
>no straight answers about hood interactions

your iso on its own is already gross LOL
I never stalled.
I gave you the night Actions I received.
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Post Post #9179 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:19 pm

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Then I left to continue a D&D Session.
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Post Post #9180 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 9172, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:So are you confirmed Town WS or?
I'm confirmed town from my point of view which is why I greened my name in my VCA if that's what you're asking, if you want to do your own VCA you can remove the green from my name.

My slot rolecopped Bambi night 2 and then was disabled by the cop enabler thingy
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Post Post #9181 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 9180, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 9172, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:So are you confirmed Town WS or?
I'm confirmed town from my point of view which is why I greened my name in my VCA if that's what you're asking, if you want to do your own VCA you can remove the green from my name.

My slot rolecopped Bambi night 2 and then was disabled by the cop enabler thingy
Got it.
So unless you bussed them your town.
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Post Post #9182 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:21 pm

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Not impossible but can be solved via PoE.
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Post Post #9183 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:21 pm

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Assuming I’m lynched.
Who will you lynch next.
Keep in mind I’ll be flipping Town.
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Post Post #9184 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 9177, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I don’t think it was the scummy.
He seemed incline to vote Emperor.
What are you seeing?
Creature as scum likes to sit off wagon on vanity wagons when town is mislynching which basically looks like most of this game

His reads throughout his iso include a quick pot shot at bambi but no sustained interaction

he wanted to mech solve late game which makes no sense because that's not how creature plays town

he also had no real-time interactions since I replaced in which is like weeks at this point

he's better at faking townreads though I give him that but he's pretty obvious scum now that bambi's dead
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Post Post #9185 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:27 pm

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In post 9183, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Assuming I’m lynched.
Who will you lynch next.
Keep in mind I’ll be flipping Town.
Well dave is mech town
flips is arguably mech town (I have a link to that discussion in the mech summary I think) -- actually if you can think of any reason flips is not mech town off that discussion I'd like to hear it
50J is almost certainly not a renegade with the convoluted dedication he put into his claim, in addition to seeming townie in his push on joan

so that leaves:
BEF, who I think? Bambi spews town, and also your slot seems to confirm cannot possibly be the scum renegade (but could be bulletproof? goon fruit vendor)

Chemist, who is a "loyal weak" hider which I think Bambi was probably manipulating to fuck up gamestate which I think spews him town as well

RCE, who received ascetic n1, disloyal vigged BEF n1 (BEF lived)
~has seemed a bit townie sometimes, but the conversation I had with him about split mechanics leaves me second guessing myself; if you were town, he'd be good bet for scum roleblocker but I doubt he's renegade

Amrun, who is currently my best pick for scum renegade (claimed fruit vendor), even if her iso has some townie shit in it

Basically if you flip town tomorrow is probably~ a 1v1 between amrun and RCE?

but you don't flip town so I'm not too worried about that yet
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Post Post #9186 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:28 pm

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In post 8037, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
In post 7971, Weiss Schnee wrote:50 Judge Powers
CLAIM:
N1:
1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Visitor

N1 I targeted Nips. I obviously loved through it, but my 1-shot was used up. (That's the short version)

Details: At first, Boon told me my shot was refunded, which would mean my shot didn't go through*

Much much later into the day he PM'd me again noting he made a mistake and my shot actually was expired/exhausted/used up, so I wasn't refunded.

*My shit doesn't go through if my target is Town. My shot also doesn't go through if I get RB'd/Jailed, or if I target an untargetable (ex: Commuter)

Since my shit did go through I deduced my target (Nips) returns a guilty to an alignment Cop.
However, since I didn't die, I also deduced Nips was Town aligned.

Combining the two, I deduced Nips was a Miller (which he did claim after the fact).

I now have another "weaker" theory that Nips may have been the one targeted with the Enchantress, thus resulting in my shot "going out" successfully, but not "reaching it's target" (i.e. I didn't actually get in touch with him) thus I am still alive.

That would -of course- depend on whether the Enchantress works like a temporary Ascetizer (blocks the source) or like an Alien (protects the target). It may look a bit confusing to you, so I will try to clear it up:
If the Enchantress (presumed to be in Nips)
blocks actions on him from the source
then my theory is invalid, since I was't recharged and I should have been if I was blocked.
However, if the Enchantress does NOT block the source, but rather "absorbs" the action on the other end, then my theory may have some merit to it, because then I would not have been blocked, but also didn't "get in contact" with Scum!Nips either.

Finally:
Reminder that Joan explicitly claimed Scum and gave us all the details about how the Scum team was divided and looking to be united in her first post


I hope this helps.

P.S. Please. PRETTY PLEASE, Nobody respond to this post but Krazy/Weiss. Thank you.
if you can see holes that would indicate flips is not mech town from 50J's perspective, I'd like to hear them
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Post Post #9187 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:29 pm

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In post 9185, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 9183, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Assuming I’m lynched.
Who will you lynch next.
Keep in mind I’ll be flipping Town.
Well dave is mech town
flips is arguably mech town (I have a link to that discussion in the mech summary I think) -- actually if you can think of any reason flips is not mech town off that discussion I'd like to hear it
50J is almost certainly not a renegade with the convoluted dedication he put into his claim, in addition to seeming townie in his push on joan

so that leaves:
BEF, who I think? Bambi spews town, and also your slot seems to confirm cannot possibly be the scum renegade (but could be bulletproof? goon fruit vendor)

Chemist, who is a "loyal weak" hider which I think Bambi was probably manipulating to fuck up gamestate which I think spews him town as well

RCE, who received ascetic n1, disloyal vigged BEF n1 (BEF lived)
~has seemed a bit townie sometimes, but the conversation I had with him about split mechanics leaves me second guessing myself; if you were town, he'd be good bet for scum roleblocker but I doubt he's renegade

Amrun, who is currently my best pick for scum renegade (claimed fruit vendor), even if her iso has some townie shit in it

Basically if you flip town tomorrow is probably~ a 1v1 between amrun and RCE?

but you don't flip town so I'm not too worried about that yet
I will.
So who’s the last scum?
If RCE and Amrun is SvT.
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Post Post #9188 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:29 pm

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Could be Chemist - Amrun/RCE.
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Post Post #9189 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:33 pm

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Yeah chemist isn't mechanically prohibited from being scum renegade but I really really doubt it given the way he claimed

2 of{Chemist/Amrun/RCE} / wildcard BEF is probably where your solve would need to go in a world where you're town, unless you want to argue 50J isn't town off play which is gonna be a pretty hard sale but not impossible
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Post Post #9190 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:35 pm

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Have you bothered to get the neighborhood yet?
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Post Post #9191 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:35 pm

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you can ignore the shit about enchantress in there, enchantress is mechanically prohibited from being in this game
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Post Post #9192 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:36 pm

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Weiss's poe leave Weiss as last scum. That seems kinda risky.
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Post Post #9193 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:40 pm

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This game is a pretty good example of how Shoshin's method of reading me works
"is town winning? weiss is town
is scum winning? weiss is scum"

I replaced into this game and turned a scum stomp into a winning position for town within 2 days
=best way of reading me lol
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Post Post #9194 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:05 pm

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In post 9193, Weiss Schnee wrote:This game is a pretty good example of how Shoshin's method of reading me works
"is town winning? weiss is town
is scum winning? weiss is scum"

I replaced into this game and turned a scum stomp into a winning position for town within 2 days
=best way of reading me lol
Question.
Have you ever bussed your own mafia member before?
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Post Post #9195 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:08 pm

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of course! hell I day 1 dayvigged a scumbuddy in a marathon this last weekend

also got a great lategame 1v1 with a scumbuddy that ALMOST won me vengecop

but uhh those are marathon games, I tend to powerwolf in real games. I did bus LLD day 1 in ali v pine but it was like a pretty mellow bus

trying to think of of when else I've bussed and not a lot comes to mind, I'm sure I have though. Not like this though :3
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Post Post #9196 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:15 pm

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In post 9195, Weiss Schnee wrote:of course! hell I day 1 dayvigged a scumbuddy in a marathon this last weekend

also got a great lategame 1v1 with a scumbuddy that ALMOST won me vengecop

but uhh those are marathon games, I tend to powerwolf in real games. I did bus LLD day 1 in ali v pine but it was like a pretty mellow bus

trying to think of of when else I've bussed and not a lot comes to mind, I'm sure I have though. Not like this though :3
Ok well.

I notice Judge is thinking Dave is scummy.
And you think Dave is Town over Judge.
What makes you so confident towards that?
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Post Post #9197 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:18 pm

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dead town psych had a "no kills" on Dave and we already have a flipped traitor which strongly suggests dave is mech town
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Post Post #9198 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:53 pm

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Romeo and Juliet [11]:
Chara, Espressojet
,
Haggle
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Venus and Mars
, Amrun, davesaz,
AaronFrost
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BrightEyedFish
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Titus
, RCEnigma,
Bambi Jay


Doctor Drew [10]:
Emperor flippyNips,
Joan of Arc
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BrightEyedFish
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AaronFrost
, 50 Judge Powers,
Bambi Jay
, Amrun,
Titus
, Chemist1442,
Chara


Updated this again.
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Post Post #9199 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:56 pm

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Yeah remember that scum didn't know for sure aaron was traitor though so there could still be one more scum on each of those wagons
and Creature being off both fits scum creature IMO
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