BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Weiss Schnee]

Did he claim the RB shot BEFORE he claimed Ascetic? (I don't even have recollection of him claiming the RB shot). If so, then that's it.

he claimed the rb shot pretty late in the game

[Weiss Schnee]

I'm a joat. I do have a roleblock, I did not roleblock Titus.

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[Weiss Schnee]

Scum assigned Desperate at start of night 1.

I think there is a little reaching going on here.
You received a desperate (if we believe that) before your action took place. Whether it was beginning of night or not is another question.
But I can't find a scum motivation for claiming this and specifically claiming something that would cement A50 unless A50 is also scum.
Which means you're probably town but possibly misguided about what happened.

She is CLEARLY saying, “desperate” wasn’t in her role pm. I think Titus knows that her role has to have been changed. Titus is not terrible at understanding game mechanics, so I don’t understand why you are doubting this. Didn’t the fact that Expresso kill, eliminate cop-like abilities make you realize it’s very likely possible, if not actually probable?

I'd buy it, I was made Ascetic last night.

Someone giving out modifiers sounds a lot like Profiis inventor claim in LNT.

asceticized n1

[Weiss Schnee]

kinda feel like off play it should be nips somehow I just don't know what mechanic could be used to fuck up your check tbh

still probably?? correct to do rce first

[RCEnigma]

@RCE and Nips

You can answer the above question as well please.

Nips/A50

Coming into the day it would have been Weiss. The night before Dave died Weiss had a short line asking Dave's final thoughts in a way that felt like A.) They knew he was dying or 2.) If the plan was favorable they could kill around it.

I think the reevaluating in a close to lylo situation is pretty townie when they could just lynch me today and bring bef to lylo.

The issue I have with being the lynch here is it means it ends up being a 50/50 tomorrow between is it A50 town and nips scum with a Joan save throwing a false positive to A50 or scum A50 with a game pocket on town flippy.

On play I'd say flippy is the more likely to flip scum but I don't discount anything as a possibility when A50 rolls scum.

[Weiss Schnee]

yeah but
a) do u think 50J gets creature to go along with checking him to softbus when he's asceticizing himself?
b) do u think scum was like informed of flips miller?
c) do u think 50J forgets he asceticized u n1 or pretends he forgot to asceticize u n1?

vs.
what is the mech explanation that allows nips to be scum short of a 50j aneuryism?

[Weiss Schnee]

UNVOTE:

here I'll take pressure off

can literally anyone come up with a way that nips could be scum mechanically?

[50 Judge Powers]

can literally anyone come up with a way that nips could be scum mechanically?

Boon pulled some shit mechanic out of his toot toot would be a good explanation if that's the case.

[RCEnigma]

yeah but
a) do u think 50J gets creature to go along with checking him to softbus when he's asceticizing himself?
b) do u think scum was like informed of flips miller?
c) do u think 50J forgets he asceticized u n1 or pretends he forgot to asceticize u n1?

vs.
what is the mech explanation that allows nips to be scum short of a 50j aneuryism?

If creature/A50 are same pt then they wouldn't need him asceticized. They can fake results anyway. It would be a Gambit on a Gambit though, to successfully catch that A50 was really rolestopped.

Possibly. Flips was also under scrutiny day 1 before Romeo flipped and before traitor AF flipped. Joan pt scum could have been calling out flippy as traitor and protecting that investment.

I dunno, it's A50.

[RCEnigma]

yeah but
a) do u think 50J gets creature to go along with checking him to softbus when he's asceticizing himself?
b) do u think scum was like informed of flips miller?
c) do u think 50J forgets he asceticized u n1 or pretends he forgot to asceticize u n1?

vs.
what is the mech explanation that allows nips to be scum short of a 50j aneuryism?

If creature/A50 are same pt then they wouldn't need him asceticized. They can fake results anyway. It would be a Gambit on a Gambit though, to successfully catch that A50 was really rolestopped.

Possibly. Flips was also under scrutiny day 1 before Romeo flipped and before traitor AF flipped. Joan pt scum could have been calling out flippy as traitor and protecting that investment.

I dunno, it's A50.

Hmm, that doesn't work, flips would have to be Joan pt.

[RCEnigma]

can literally anyone come up with a way that nips could be scum mechanically?

Boon pulled some shit mechanic out of his toot toot would be a good explanation if that's the case.

Everything about this game already makes my head hurt.

[RCEnigma]

Nothing makes sense. Is it just me?!?

[50 Judge Powers]

Like, "A50's Weak is considered as him targeting himself with a kill if he is targeting Scum, thus Rolestopper stops him from dying to that". It doesn't even make sense to me.

But you know what? I could lynch Nips today to find out. I don't feel strongly about anyone anymore.

[Weiss Schnee]

Nothing makes sense. Is it just me?!?

like scum role is confirmed to be an x-shot split scum renegade already

so what fucking more could he want

for BEf to be scum, creature would have to have set himself to be lynched immediately after a bef flip RIGHT AFTER he says BEF visited a dead guy!

nope

for 50J scum, he had to have been informed nips was miller mechanically, then built a convoluted as fuck roleclaim to dump all his actions, THEN FAKED a fucking day long delay on a mechanical result while also getting CREATURE to go along with a weird mechanical gambit that involved knowing he was rolestopped so creature could dump his result?????? wtf is that play

????

for nips scum 50 had to have visited him as "weak" and have him not die????

for RCE scum he had to have gambited no one would EVER call him having a roleblock shot in a game with 2 FRUIT VENDORS???

what is this game

LOL

[Weiss Schnee]

Boon says renegade would have to be able to self target and weak should always die without "death preventing role" which does not include doctor

[Weiss Schnee]

Renegade *rolecard would have to specifically say it could self target

[50 Judge Powers]

Boon says renegade would have to be able to self target and weak should always die without "death preventing role" which does not include doctor

See? You'd always struggle to interpret what Boon says! Like, what role(s) prevent death that aren't Doctors? Does Rolestopper count as on? Does BODYGUARD?? (Hint: BG should NEVER prevent a Weak role from dying to scum, because it's actually the WEAK "doing it to themselves"). I am not going to enter that vortex once more.

[Weiss Schnee]

Rolestopper not work either he says

So bef as fucking ninja renegade? Lolololololol

I don't fucking know man feel like I need drugs to solve this shit

[Weiss Schnee]

Reflexive weak canceller lololololol

*smokes blunt *

[Weiss Schnee]

Hmm rce faking ascetic maybe explains why bambi 'forgot' to check ascetic on rce?

[RCEnigma]

? How so?

[RCEnigma]

If I'm scum with Bambi they just claim no result or something.

[Weiss Schnee]

Fair

is there any world where BEF is scum here and everything I know about how creature plays scum is wrong? I don't think there is but it's you or I guess 50J made the most insane fucking fakeclaim I've seen in my life

[RCEnigma]

I'd eat several hats if I inno'd scum two games in a row.

[Weiss Schnee]

so what u think rce?