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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 am

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In post 1296, samantha97 wrote:
In post 1293, Shoshin wrote: What're your reads?
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am i leanmaf for pushing you or leanmaf for not wanting to vote the nicoslot...?
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 am

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which like, you said it was concerning i didn’t wanna pressure a slot when it’d do nothing and then you didn’t revisit that slot today and voted another dead one
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 1035, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i had a case on pelican ready that was about how hesitant they were on vax but. sigh.
was vax the only thing about pelican's positions that you didn't like? in 262 you'd said that you had taly was town and make no mention of them elsewhere in your iso
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:01 pm

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In post 1295, Shoshin wrote:HUB also seems familiar with Nico's meta, making their push on Nico even scummier. Nico's an easy mislynch that scum love to take advantage of.
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Nico was not readable off meta this game
I got off Nico when she replaced out
Scum usually pocket Nico because her reads are typically bad, I wouldn't say she's particularly targeted for early game scum fades

Literally every clause of this sentence is not only false but the opposite of the truth

I was actually arguing to give your slot the chance to come in fresh, but so far you are not only well within your scumrange but you are making the game actively less enjoyable by constant insistence on OOG arguments and bullshit meta that no one who knows the players in question would remotely buy. Implying that Nico replacing out is town indicative is not only a lie because that's not her meta, it's also gross because we can just take your actions on their own--which so far, are pretty underwhelming for town replacing into a 50 page game with a scumflip
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:18 pm

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Interesting.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:59 pm

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What makes you believe I'm scum, HUB?
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 1303, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:Scum usually pocket Nico because her reads are typically bad, I wouldn't say she's particularly targeted for early game scum fades
This hasn't been my experience. It's usually been the best exact opposite (see Labyrinth, RC's other game I forgot the name of, Errant's game, etc.)
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:23 pm

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I guess I should also clarify that I didn't town read Nico for replacing out. I'm aware that Nico strongly prefers playing scum, and lack of interest in a game IS a minor town-tell for Nico. But that would apply to this game regardless whether Nico replaced out or not.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:25 pm

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I also think Nico tends to offer more reads as scum on D1, whereas she NEVER offers reads as town on D1. This game was town Nico via posting.

And btw, this game isn't the only time I've replaced a slot that I town read based on only two posts. So this isn't reason to scum read me...
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 pm

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I'd also like to note that I fully intend to read this game in-depth tomorrow night when I have time, but for now, I wanted to get in the game as soon as possible instead of sitting on the sidelines until I read. I do this in every game I've ever replaced into as town, so that also isn't reason to scumread me.

HUB seems to know me, so it's weird that they'd suspect me for anything at this point.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:20 pm

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Alright that's a pretty important clarification. I'll think about it. I had no idea what the hell you were talking about in regard to her meta unless you meant the replace out and too much of this game has already revolved around replace-out logic.

I'll hear out your reads tomorrow, I'm self-aware enough to know that right now I'm more just annoyed at you than strongly convinced you're scum.

That being said, I do think you have a pretty strong scum motivation to lie about Nico's meta to attempt to spew yourself town, and given how Nico *just not doing anything* is completely NAI, that felt like a pretty bald-faced lie for purely positional reasons. Nico flakes on games as both alignments and when she does she says nothing of substance, her doing nothing this game does not make her town in any way shape or form. It means she was a flat null and frankly people were quite reasonable in how they approached her wagon both yesterday and today.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:25 pm

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For those considering the possibility I'm scum, I do think you should consider the claim seriously. We have 2 claimed TPRs and 2 flipped non-vanilla town and a flipped goon. Given this gamestate, it is highly probable that (both? x-many) remaining scum are non-vanilla. This means if I *was* scum claiming VT would make me open to hard guilties by vanilla cops, neapolitans, and rolecops, in addition to the usual retinue of tracker and watcher. In that respect I think there's actually a pretty strong argument that I'm town off claim, so even if you're annoyed at me for getting into a somewhat stupid argument with ET you should intellectually be able to recognize my slot is very likely to be town this game.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:30 pm

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I'm not interested in your angleshoot case on why your claim is towny.
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:31 pm

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That's not an angle-shoot, that's a gamestate analysis, they're pretty different gamma. I'm literally talking about flips and claims, that is the exact opposite of angle-shooting.

Do you not think scum are mostly non-vanilla at this point?
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:32 pm

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Frankly we have 2 claimed tprs and 2 dead tprs and a flipped goon. Is it not actually correct to massclaim today?
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:35 pm

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Gamma what is your read on me right now?
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:40 pm

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I don't get the replacement post, individual heads of hydras get replaced now or is ET gone? @Boon?
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:42 pm

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Day 2
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:47 pm

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hmm that's too bad :(
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:30 pm

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HUB, what's your read on Bell? If you're town, and I'm willing I consider the possibility, Bell immediately crosses my mind as likely scum.
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:40 pm

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oh taylor you rascal
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:42 pm

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Also, HUB, I don't understand your reaction to my entrance when I'm clearly towning up a mislynch bait. Your emotion was precisely what I expect scum to feel as they watch their potential mislynch slip away. Am I someone you strongly dislike from past history?
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:42 pm

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What happened to Taylor?
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:07 pm

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Taylor was the alt of a banned user
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:09 pm

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In post 1320, Shoshin wrote:HUB, what's your read on Bell? If you're town, and I'm willing I consider the possibility, Bell immediately crosses my mind as likely scum.
Bell is one of several people who has insisted they will become obvtown and I don't really think he's done it yet. I don't have particularly strong feelings on him other than disliking that particular argument.
In post 1322, Shoshin wrote:Also, HUB, I don't understand your reaction to my entrance when I'm clearly towning up a mislynch bait. Your emotion was precisely what I expect scum to feel as they watch their potential mislynch slip away. Am I someone you strongly dislike from past history?
My reason for joining this game was to play a clean game and so far it just frankly hasn't been that so I got kinda pissed at how you entered with the nico comments and the defense of angle shooting, I wouldn't say I generally dislike you. I also don't really think Nico was like a very important misfade option in a world of town!nico? If I was scum I wouldn't really be worried about my options for fading people tbh, this isn't an overwhelmingly townie town. I'm angry at you for defending angle shooting and I'm scumleaning you for lying about Nico's meta. Saying you scumlean me because I don't support cheating is an extremely effective way of pissing me off.
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