Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[willow1]

sam is almost certainly town by virtue of being a vig so hypothetically we would go titus into probably flea

[jjh927]

No, you need to elim Sam even though she is town

[jjh927]

It's the only way to stop the killing

[willow1]

oh yeah, that next, yes

[Bear HUGS]

In order:
Titus is scum
I am guessing that T3 is a tracker who has made a questionable assumption about me targeting him
Retti's gambit isn't actually a guilty because the actual scum is someone else within the mask claims. I trueclaimed

I will cry if this is true.

[jjh927]

Don't cry when it's hilarious

[willow1]

jjh flipping town would somehow be even better for us believe it or not b/c of retti's info

[jjh927]

Honestly I can't even be mad at this level of happenstance

[willow1]

jjh town would equal titus plus one of the mask users

The mask users are Dunn (town), Sam (town), Retti (almost certainly town), T3 (almost certainly town), Flea

[Dunnstral]

jjh town would equal titus plus one of the mask users

The mask users are Dunn (town), Sam (town), Retti (almost certainly town), T3 (almost certainly town), Flea

Flea was inno'd by T3

Retti would have to have dueled his entire team as scum

Unfortunately, T3 would be the most likely scum

[Dunnstral]

With that said, it's probably just jjh instead

[Dunnstral]

Nice meme though

[samantha97]

ya I liked it

[Dunnstral]

So... what's the deal with 'ninja checker'

[jjh927]

I can think of at least 4 reasons why there would be a ninja checker

[Raya36]

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

jjh didn't hear out sam's full claim before their own claim

Their claim was wifom to try to survive by looking town based on claim

Also, it doesn't matter even if he does want that

Oh, I take back that part of my argument then

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

So you’re saying it’s better to elim Sam? What makes you think jjh isn’t just trying to trick us with this? Because Sam elim does give scum a free kill regardless.

Yes but if we leave Sam then we have to elim them the next day. So it's an extra free kill to force us to let Sam live. That said dunn just pointed out this point doesn't stand.

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

great, now can u evaluate the optimal play directly without relying on what scum may or may not want as the crux of the argument

Yeah that's a good idea. We should just elim the guilty. If jj is telling the truth then we'd have to wait 2 more days to elim there again.

I see JJ was hammered. Sam tomorrow for sure because of the neg-utility

[willow1]

depends on what t3's town-indicative result actually is but we can sort through this tomorrow in any case, no point dealing w/ hypothetical jjh town world rn

[jjh927]

1. Scum might have a ninja
2. Town might have a ninja, leading to an interesting scenario depending on how a positive result would play out
3. Mod wifom. There is no ninja. However, a ninja checker could rule out specific players being ninjas and therefore make tracker innos more reliable.
4. A role in the game might have a mask that when worn secretly gives them the ninja modifier.

[jjh927]

Oh, for some pretty much meaningless clarification, I actually fully understood Sam's role when it was claimed the first time and I claimed my neg utility. No additional information was gleaned from the clarification and I was still pretty sure eliming me was correct given the circumstances

[Retti]

Lol this game

[willow1]

do you hear that retti?

it's the

sound that races through the end of the world

sound of me possibly still being right on titus

the dream is still alive

[willow1]

Retti looked at Dunnstral and saw on his eyelashes the first glimmer of wintry frost. Then he looked at willow1, his invincible power, his intrepid tunnel, and he was overwhelmed by the belated suspicion that it is life, more than death, that has no limits.

"And how long do you think we can keep this goddamn Titus scumread coming and going?" he asked

willow1 had kept his answer ready for fifty-three years, seven months, and four days and nights.

"Forever," he said.

[willow1]

realtalk the titus scumread is dumb because andante suddenly swapped over to wanting her voted out iirc, and posts like 1227 seem to be buddying town more than s/s, but i was born a dreamer

[willow1]

wait am i having fun in a mafia game, and this mafia game of all of them

pretty sure that's not allowed

[ProfessorDrapion]

jjh town would equal titus plus one of the mask users

The mask users are Dunn (town), Sam (town), Retti (almost certainly town), T3 (almost certainly town), Flea

Flea isn’t scum due to first dead scum interaction.