Situation Room [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.10

Target	Wagon
Cupcake Butterfly (6)	Bingle (1678), Almost50 (1686), Bell (1724), Titus (1735), DrippingGoofball (1884), T3 (1885)
Almost50 (4)	FakeGod (1797), Yuri Gagarin (1803), Dusa (1845), UNOwen (1847)
Yuri Gagarin (1)	OkaPoka (1512)
T3 (1)	Save The Dragons (1522)
Not Voting (3)	Cupcake Butterfly, LavarManos, GuiltyLion (1889)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to eliminate. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-03 18:30:59).

[DrippingGoofball]

A50 is probably also scum but we only have one DELETE per day.

I'll gladly vote for either.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: A50

You know what? Let's make these wagons 5 vs 5 and check out the movement.

[Titus]

VOTE: A50

You know what? Let's make these wagons 5 vs 5 and check out the movement.

This pocket is roomy.

[Dusa]

Why aren't they posting FakeGod. Why do they hate town if they're town.

Cupcake is a son of Zeus, not a spawn of Chaos!

[Dusa]

I went back and read it and based on how he just gave up and said "you jerks have already decided" I empathically disagree. Statistically you're more likely to be right than wrong. But if anything his posts point to wifom before he exits stage left.

Oh heeheehee you know

[Titus]

ykw that's fair. I do that as scum.

VOTE: cb

Follows onto CB, with his scumread. In fact he sheeps his scumread.
An A50 wagon, on my professed partner, and T3 doesn't vote it.

[Dusa]

I went back and read it and based on how he just gave up and said "you jerks have already decided" I empathically disagree. Statistically you're more likely to be right than wrong. But if anything his posts point to wifom before he exits stage left.

Oh heeheehee you know

Oh, that's about Gamma!?

[Dusa]

I don't have a large sample size of okas meta but he's playing similar to how he played as town in dayvig deactivators. Frequent oneliners.

Do you find this well to be deep!?!?!?

[LavarManos]

i would like to be reassured by lavarmanos that they are not angling to yoink 6th neighborhood

I am not. I'm town, so it is ok.

[Bell]

I went back and read it and based on how he just gave up and said "you jerks have already decided" I empathically disagree. Statistically you're more likely to be right than wrong. But if anything his posts point to wifom before he exits stage left.

Oh heeheehee you know

Oh, that's about Gamma!?

Yes. that post was me disagreeing with FakeGod that Cupcake isn't scum because Gamma voted her. Given subsequent posts and Gamma's approach, I don't find FakeGod's argument persuasive.
Even if he's right.

[DrippingGoofball]

i would like to be reassured by lavarmanos that they are not angling to yoink 6th neighborhood

I am not. I'm town, so it is ok.

Please take a stand a vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

LavarManos has never cast a vote in this game.

[LavarManos]

Ok
VOTE: A50 because I agree with what other people said about defending Gamma.

[Titus]

I feel T3 just spewed A50 as town. I can't endorse this wagon but I understand that it's not necessarily a scum driven wagon. I think scum are capitalizing here.

[Almost50]

Titus and A50 are scum together.

I'll cut the whole Town a deal then: I Do SR T3 (and FG) the most. The wagonomics of today *checks to make sure N_M is not around* make me think CB is indeed Scum (there's a slight chance I'm being wagoned bc my reads are good, but it's been some time since I actually did have good reads so I won't be shocked if CB was Town afterall). Btw, I take back my SR on Bell.

So, I could help you all and self-vote if you like but

under the condition

you solemnly swear to get both FG & T3 next. I don't care what order you take them down, but let them be D3 & D4 eliminations.

As soon as I've seen 8 different players swear to follow my dying wish I will self-vote.

P.S. It goes without saying that this promise is conditional on me flipping green, so a Townie could still add "If A50 flips Town" or something to that effect and I won't object.

How say you all?

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

Feels too early for this to be at E-1, I'd like at least Cupcake to post or a replacement. I'd like more from UNOwen and a50 today as well.

I don't really have much to say -so far- and I'm not exactly in the mood to act like the monkey I am. Let's see if anything in the remaining 2 pages motivates me to do either.

The ONLY thing I do want to repeat is: FG IS SCUM. T3 IS SCUM. CB "maybe" Scum. Bell is vendicated.
As for my TRs, add Titus to the list of Bingle, Oka, STD, GL, DGB, Yuri & Bell (although Yuri is now a considerably weaker TR than the rest)

That leaves me with the null leftovers: Dusa, UN & Lavar

[Almost50]

I want to look at monkey’s reaction to the wagon on him,

You just did. Now promise me you will do T3/FG after me when I flip green. It's not too much to ask, is it?

[DrippingGoofball]

I had a thought when I woke up...

If I were scum, I'd be all over LurksackManos

!town

for an easy yeet that I could get away with.

If I were scum, I'd be very content letting LurksackManos

!scum

slide by the town's attention.

My question to you all is this:

How come LurksackManos is sliding by?

[DrippingGoofball]

I want to look at monkey’s reaction to the wagon on him,

You just did. Now promise me you will do T3/FG after me when I flip green. It's not too much to ask, is it?

Why should I vote for either of these two instead of, say, CB?

UNVOTE:

[T3]

Titus and A50 are scum together.

I'll cut the whole Town a deal then: I Do SR T3 (and FG) the most. The wagonomics of today *checks to make sure N_M is not around* make me think CB is indeed Scum (there's a slight chance I'm being wagoned bc my reads are good, but it's been some time since I actually did have good reads so I won't be shocked if CB was Town afterall). Btw, I take back my SR on Bell.

So, I could help you all and self-vote if you like but

under the condition

you solemnly swear to get both FG & T3 next. I don't care what order you take them down, but let them be D3 & D4 eliminations.

As soon as I've seen 8 different players swear to follow my dying wish I will self-vote.

P.S. It goes without saying that this promise is conditional on me flipping green, so a Townie could still add "If A50 flips Town" or something to that effect and I won't object.

How say you all?

Nah. Scum just hide behind pacts.

[Titus]

I had a thought when I woke up...

If I were scum, I'd be all over LurksackManos

!town

for an easy yeet that I could get away with.

If I were scum, I'd be very content letting LurksackManos

!scum

slide by the town's attention.

My question to you all is this:

How come LurksackManos is sliding by?

This is possible scum. I totally forgot about them. I still feel CB and T3 are bigger fish to fry but I'd vote there.

[FakeGod]

Almost50, you seem to be under a misunderstanding that we need your self-vote to execute you.

Also, you are lamenting your inaccurate reads, but also demanding that people follow them.

[UNOwen]

any thoughts on everything Yuri's posted today? I think this response to me is fine, but I don't like how you basically engaged with just me and then switched from Yuri to A50 without giving thoughts on like... anything else

That's fair, I haven't really clicked into this game so far.

Yuri's posts:
- Mechanics talk is dull and totally NAI, I'm sure competent scum would be content to engage in a clash of playstyles
- suspect list I don't get it at all
- "unfun" talk is also dull and I don't care for it
- Dusa suspicion is weird, could suggest genuine disengagement but then Yuri was clearly reading enough to get a strong Gamma scum read so missing Dusa side is "hmm"
- easy A50 vote is +town if A50 does flip scum, which I expect he will

Nothing today has massively impacted my suspicion, but I know you had a different opinion on the Oka stuff so if you want to town case the content I'll have an open mind.

As for anything else, there's not much interesting to say on the Cupcake wagon that I didn't say before. It is fine, it just isn't inspiring to vote for a player who isn't playing. I hoped he would say something, but he hasn't. I'm not against killing him on policy grounds now. Gamma's "actual scum" phrasing would make a lot of sense as a clumsy attempt at setting up a misexecution post Cupcake scum flip. Earlier read stands: decent/good chance he is scum based purely on the content of his posts but if he is scum then it indicates scum team in shambles. My current read of the game is that this might be the case, but I'm not 100% there isn't scum who has got themselves into a good position yet.

The Gamma/Solo/Almost50 ISOs point me to A50 scum for reasons that have been covered (in particular Gamma's scummiest posts were his initial reaction to Dusa's push, not being suspicious of them but instead the WIFOMy stuff he was posting when his wagon was beyond the point of return is not very plausible). The associatives feel compelling and I prefer voting on this basis.

[UNOwen]

I feel T3 just spewed A50 as town.

How?