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Post Post #4925 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 4876, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 4874, skitter30 wrote:i am but there's something missing in ur logic there that i'm not getting
Your positioning on gypyx looks more like a buddy than toog, because of your positioning on me.

Because if you’re scum, you’re setting me up to flip me first, then toog, so it looks like a possible chaining of miselims. I still think gypyx is extremely scummy but less certain on that now because of Prism.

I don’t understand your confidence on scum!toog either, so there’s that.
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Post Post #4926 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 4878, Harley Quinn wrote:Here’s my concern with the toog scum reads. Is it possible toog can be scum here, sure but he’s scumread in almost every game, so I don’t like the confident scumreads on that slot.
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Post Post #4927 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:50 pm

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Post Post #4928 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 4924, Taly wrote:
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Post Post #4929 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:52 pm

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In post 4908, Ydrasse wrote:why does voting taly thru feel like a mistake lol
i mean i think it's fine but if u think that why are you voting him
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i dont know if theres a valid reason to feel like i shouldnt do it and if its just "wow i dont know anything right now this sucks"
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Statuses 5.0.5
Safely Across [0]
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Crossing [0]:

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The game will end once 4 uncrossed remain.
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tweetie she is purple color now
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Post Post #4933 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:55 pm

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In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
i mean true, i didn't see the blue pt, but i saw the pink pt and i was basing my understanding of the game from what i saw there
and i take issue with the fact that you're saying i was focusing more on the pt than why i found peta scummy, and i also described my peta read above more
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Post Post #4934 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:55 pm

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she has ascended to purplehood
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Post Post #4935 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:56 pm

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In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
this is good tho
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Post Post #4936 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:57 pm

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In post 4928, Taly wrote:
In post 4924, Taly wrote:
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Post Post #4937 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:57 pm

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In post 4925, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4876, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 4874, skitter30 wrote:i am but there's something missing in ur logic there that i'm not getting
Your positioning on gypyx looks more like a buddy than toog, because of your positioning on me.

Because if you’re scum, you’re setting me up to flip me first, then toog, so it looks like a possible chaining of miselims. I still think gypyx is extremely scummy but less certain on that now because of Prism.

I don’t understand your confidence on scum!toog either, so there’s that.
these thoughts don't add up to 'toog is probably town if i'm scum'
I really don’t understand where you’re going with this at all, Either you’re town and we can trust your read on him is genuine or you’re scum and we can’t. It’s not exactly rocket science. What I will say is the more you keep pursuing this, the more I worry that you could be scum here because I just find this weird that of all the things you’re electing to focus on, it’s this.
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Post Post #4938 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:57 pm

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don't worry it's far more light hearted and fickle than it sounds
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Post Post #4939 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 4935, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
this is good tho
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 4872, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3465, Gammagooey wrote:scummish: Toog, Saber, Ydrasse
fight me scummo: Skitter
@gammagooey
are you still thinking this?
For the most part yeah, and definitely about skitter & Saber

On Skitter - Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.

Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.

Ydrasse I like their posting this event but I still want to reread her and most people I townread more than her

Toog I'm probably fiiiine with not dying today but I don't think the Dunn/Toog interactions are impossible to fake and if he doesn't contribute actual posting in future events either I will try my damnedest to chuck him into the nearest meatgrinder before whatever this game's equivalent of LYLO is

oh jesus there are like 20 posts that happened while I was typing this
Skitter, why no comment on this?
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Post Post #4940 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 4906, Taly wrote:
TWEETIE, CONFIRM? Will we see a possible kill occur right after someone is voted to cross?
A kill may occur on a player who is "crossing" once the next player is nominated to cross.
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Post Post #4941 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 4940, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 4906, Taly wrote:
TWEETIE, CONFIRM? Will we see a possible kill occur right after someone is voted to cross?
A kill may occur on a player who is "crossing" once the next player is nominated to cross.
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Post Post #4942 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 4940, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 4906, Taly wrote:
TWEETIE, CONFIRM? Will we see a possible kill occur right after someone is voted to cross?
A kill may occur on a player who is "crossing" once the next player is nominated to cross.
How long does crossing take?!

Like, is it until the NEXT cross decision?

Or is it until the event itself ends?
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Post Post #4943 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 4939, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 4935, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
this is good tho
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 4872, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3465, Gammagooey wrote:scummish: Toog, Saber, Ydrasse
fight me scummo: Skitter
@gammagooey
are you still thinking this?
For the most part yeah, and definitely about skitter & Saber

On Skitter - Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.

Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.

Ydrasse I like their posting this event but I still want to reread her and most people I townread more than her

Toog I'm probably fiiiine with not dying today but I don't think the Dunn/Toog interactions are impossible to fake and if he doesn't contribute actual posting in future events either I will try my damnedest to chuck him into the nearest meatgrinder before whatever this game's equivalent of LYLO is

oh jesus there are like 20 posts that happened while I was typing this
Skitter, why no comment on this?

she did
In post 4933, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
i mean true, i didn't see the blue pt, but i saw the pink pt and i was basing my understanding of the game from what i saw there
and i take issue with the fact that you're saying i was focusing more on the pt than why i found peta scummy, and i also described my peta read above more
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Post Post #4944 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 4943, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 4939, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 4935, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
this is good tho
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 4872, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3465, Gammagooey wrote:scummish: Toog, Saber, Ydrasse
fight me scummo: Skitter
@gammagooey
are you still thinking this?
For the most part yeah, and definitely about skitter & Saber

On Skitter - Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.

Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.

Ydrasse I like their posting this event but I still want to reread her and most people I townread more than her

Toog I'm probably fiiiine with not dying today but I don't think the Dunn/Toog interactions are impossible to fake and if he doesn't contribute actual posting in future events either I will try my damnedest to chuck him into the nearest meatgrinder before whatever this game's equivalent of LYLO is

oh jesus there are like 20 posts that happened while I was typing this
Skitter, why no comment on this?

she did
In post 4933, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
i mean true, i didn't see the blue pt, but i saw the pink pt and i was basing my understanding of the game from what i saw there
and i take issue with the fact that you're saying i was focusing more on the pt than why i found peta scummy, and i also described my peta read above more
In post 4935, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
this is good tho
This post only mentions Saber. I’m thinking that I will have to ISO her posts to show why the srs on her are wrong but I was really hoping that wouldn’t be necessary. :(
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Post Post #4945 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:16 pm

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In post 4921, Taly wrote:UNVOTE:

omg I need to stop being conversational, I want to do analysis but I don't have the attention span

Someone force me to stfu and ISO.
i still don't have a good read on you and feel vaguely apprehensive but

let's try working together to go over people? i want someone to use as a sounding board this game and was hoping to use cakez but it seems like he doesn't have the time, and you seem to be the only other person with a strong inclination to tryhard right now. i want to feel like i'm not totally isolated in this game
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Post Post #4946 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:16 pm

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In post 4942, Taly wrote:How long does crossing take?!

Like, is it until the NEXT cross decision?

Or is it until the event itself ends?
Only one player can cross at a time. Crossing ends once the next nomination is hammered.
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Post Post #4947 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 4945, petapan wrote:
In post 4921, Taly wrote:UNVOTE:

omg I need to stop being conversational, I want to do analysis but I don't have the attention span

Someone force me to stfu and ISO.
i still don't have a good read on you and feel vaguely apprehensive but

let's try working together to go over people? i want someone to use as a sounding board this game and was hoping to use cakez but it seems like he doesn't have the time, and you seem to be the only other person with a strong inclination to tryhard right now. i want to feel like i'm not totally isolated in this game
Sure :) I'll reply in detail to your
Dunn
analysis to start and will not post again until that is out.
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Post Post #4948 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:25 pm

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speaking of which
In post 4933, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
i mean true, i didn't see the blue pt, but i saw the pink pt and i was basing my understanding of the game from what i saw there
and i take issue with the fact that you're saying i was focusing more on the pt than why i found peta scummy, and i also described my peta read above more
Tbf reading back I think I missed a post or two where you went into slightly more detail in your peta read, but you were townreading him when unwnd asked you about him pre-Dunn flip, you were one of only two people to actually vote peta and get the wagon you wanted, and it felt like the effort you put into pushing for peta-scum and 'only 1 scum in the pink PT' felt comparable. Gemerald, as you have probably heard, got v. visibly irritated when he got ignored by most of Blue PT and had a strong town read nominated. You on the other hand, were one of TWO people in your group to actually get exactly what they wanted, and you had a town read on infinity, and what might have been your best chance to get rid of your scumread felt just lackluster when I would think most people in that position would push harder to rally people to vote out peta-scum.
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Post Post #4949 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:40 pm

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In post 4695, petapan wrote:i'm gonna start with dunn's iso because it's short and i will have an easier time focusing on it. this is going to be a more raw note taking style rather than working things into legible conclusions so as to be presentable, not how i'd normally post things but i'm just going to try to be as open with my process as i can be right now even if it is not necessarily the most readable and ventures into IIoA territory because i want to be thorough.

the interactions from dunn should be taken as supplemental to main reads on players rather than being the entire basis for a read. some of this stuff probably won't be important/readable. doesn't matter

- "And your motive is what?" to Taly
I saw this response as ignoring my post entirely, but didn't think it AI.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - reply to dwlee about speculating on mechanics of first even, in response to something pooky said
is a significant post because it follows the narrative that scum actually wanted to drive scummy players into this decision. I remember
Saber
making a similar post.

Makes me think
Gamma
was the perfect player regardless of alignment. Theoretically, a scum-kingmaker makes a bus look attractive in retrospect, and scumread-town-kingmaker is good if the player doesn't PoE many town VS LHF or biased reads against other townies. I don't think all 4 scum was on him versus
Galron
, though.
That's not me agreeing with the post, I'm not sure scum would be able to sabotage in a way that is "get an extra kill" for balance reasons
I wonder if this is
Dunn
saying that scum knew they couldn't kill multiple players.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "your reasoning doesn't add up here", shade in response to Cakez
This pushes my idea to
Gamma
-town because why would scum-
Dunn
incriminate themselves by pushing
Cakez
for wanting to trust a
Prism
-kingmaker but vote
Gamma
later?

This assumes
Dunn
is so consistent in scumplay, but the suspicion of
Cakez
at first glance isn't odd. I mean, why would
Dunn
indirectly argue V
Prism
-kingmaker if they were S/S?
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - sarcastic eyeroll "i was scum in that game" in response to Toogeloo
Fluff.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "I didn't want to believe that everybody advocating for self votes was town" this is an interesting comment. to my memory, the people who had been advocating some form of self vote, whether joking or not were prism/pooky/taly. i haven't fact checked this but if i had to make a snap judgment here i would say that this means the people who had been advocating some form of self vote in the early game
are
town
Love this take.
Dunn
seems to have a flaw in his scumplay of TMI'ing. I feel like his intent in the post above is to intercept credit on
Me/Pooky/Taly
by voting
Pooky
, questioning my motive, and barking at
Cakez
for pushing
Prism
.

It doesn't feel like he actually believes in his thought but is simply finding a reason to allow suspicion on a slot, I say this as there was no question or follow-up thought to illustrate anything deeper.

He could be distancing from
Prism
scumbuddy as to focus on a player like
Cakez
rather than
Prism
, but nothing else in his ISO suggests this.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "what kill?" in response to dwlee
- "How am I supposed to interperet this?" in response to dwlee making a comment about among us mafia
Could be either way with his alignment with
Dwlee
. He shows little desire to resolve
Dunn
or inform him.
In post 4695, petapan wrote:i - "So do you think the 3 in 290 are scum or not?" in response to gamma's early post voting pooky. questioning/joining the pile-on
This is really, really awkward as fuck. Because on one hand,
Dunn
could be testing the waters to get a green light to scumread
Gamma's
PoE because he doesn't actually have a stated position of these players, or push
Gamma
over backlash. Positing.

Kind of vexed that this flies over
Gamma's
head, slight negative on
Gamma
here but does
Dunn
-scum do this to a buddy so early?
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - shading toogeloo over a joke post suggesting a galron elimination
Still don't get much from this
Toog
interaction.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - Galron asks why we're eliminating someone less than 24 hours into the game, dunn says "we're just voting" in response. nothing reply but maybe slightly unaligning just for the fact that he bothered to respond to him at all
Yeah this doesn't feel like scum/scum. I feel like
Dunn
would've formulated a stance rather than give an
"lol cause"
thought to a townie because it's passable.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "I don't get why Gamma is tilted all of a sudden"
Stiff. Feels like scum painting an unfortunate narrative to a towny? It doesn't feel distance-y because it is met without resistance. I don't think scum challenges scum and then nothing happens usually, especially when
Gamma
is the main topic and a current suspect right now, so it's doubly easier for
Dunn
-scum to project the method of a kingmaker in a town-
Gamma
that is acting impulsively.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - this seems to be a response addressed to gamma despite quoting Galron, saying "We had a problem with your viewpoint, not the fact that you were playing serious"
This gives
Dunn/Gamma
coach-vibes but why does
Dunn
bother if
Gamma
was likely being nominated and S/S would want to have a kill in their pocket?
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - re-quoting his old post and voting cakez. i think this is overall a good look for cakez
I'm inclined to agree but it feels premature at this moment.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - cakez says "that said I see where you're coming from re; it not adding up for you" in response to dunn, dunn says "I'm not sure that you do?".
i think this is a very good look for cakez
Can you elaborate why
Peta
?
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "I'm interested in hearing about Cephrir being scummy" in response to Prism's reads list. mild town points for that slot, i think
I can see that. It is likelier that
Dunn
wants to progress a TvT rather than encourage a buddy to sus somewhere other than where he is, because
Dunn
leaves the implication that he might vote
Ceph
in the end.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "Without looking at meta I disagree with this read" in response to Gamma voting ulyana
A little odd to defend
Ulya
because they don't seem in too much a threat either way but I'm wondering the motive on why scum defends scum here.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "I'm evil because I disagree with you is a lame take" in response to Gamma's
Hahaha, I'm far more interested in
Saber's
being a soft-defense of
Dunn
and redirection to
Infinity/Skitter/Ydra
.
In post 4695, petapan wrote:. the previous shade is iffy but
Do you think
Gamma/Saber
S/S is ever a reality,
Peta
? I know that implies
Dunn/Gamma/Saber
but
Dunn/Saber
either really wanted one of their own as a king, or manipulated a lot of
Gamma's
progression Event 1. Which is likelier?
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - this is shade on ceph, which is not relevant because ceph is dead but the form is at least notable as we see
Gamma
killed
Ceph
when
Galron
didn't work, hmmmm.
In post 4695, petapan wrote:/ - response to Taly about how there's no power roles so there's no need to announce intent to hammer on Gamma Emerald, followed with a comment about how not every game needs to be painful, seemingly urging people to end the day.

i think that this is a good look for gamma unless we assume some amount of 5D chess taking place here, he seems to want to push people to kill gamma but is not positioning himself to take credit for a bus or anything of the sort
Dunn
pressed me here. :/ I agree with your take.

In post 4695, petapan wrote: - E-1 vote on Gamma Emerald

/ - posts on gamma voting himself into the chair. these are the ones pooky caught him on. honestly, the massive hedge here on gamma's alignment is something i would not say is a good look for gamma. in a vacuum it'd seem partnery. but it's just a single data point, other things look good
Perhaps let's look at
Saber/HQ
and another player's ISO after this?

At this point, it could just be
Dunn
backtracking from any set agenda, but I'm not leaving partner-interaction off the table, just unlikely with the surrounding posts.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "What happened to the multiple people who were willing to hammer Gamma?"
- response to taly clarifying statements about gamma. "I'm pointing out that he had a chance to get into the chair if he wanted to"
- response to pooky about gamma

that he felt the need to respond to both of these questions about his stance is mildly +town for taly given we know pooky was asking something similar
It just felt unnaturally pushy on his end. I don't know why he felt the desire to just hammer
Gamma
before he thread was fully ready. It felt like
Gamma
-king was pre-emptive in retrospect and I only picked this up on a surface level and didn't think to follow further.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "I'm not sure what you're getting at but I never said any of that." in response to Taly
- response to Taly I think, of trying to explain himself about the wagon falling apart
- clarification about who was aimed at
This never pacified my read on
Dunn
, btw. Words did not align with tone, but I didn't feel strong enough to assert, I also was focused on sorting
Ulya
.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - gamma asks dunn about why he's responded to certain things, dunn gives a fairly neutral answer about not having read the whole game and

i, again, don't really like this that much for gamma. the question feels like a softball and dunn's response doesn't feel threatened
I don't feel one way or the other here.
Gamma
could be sincere in trying to identify his major vex but misses the mark.

At the same time I can see your POV, this is after
Gamma's
choices, and
Dunn
was well in his PoE.
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - "How many times this game has it been made clear that there are no town prs?" in response to Galron making a comment about a town PR dying. i don't want to rest too firmly on it but i'm not sure he'd be so quick to cut down a partner's fake dumbtell
It is anti-partnery and aligns with the T/S dynamic of
Dunn/Galron
I mentioned earlier in this post.

Makes me glad I came to the conclusion of
Dunn/(anyone but Unwnd)
duel. :D
In post 4695, petapan wrote: - there's an interaction with gamma here, initiating this. i think "ulyana is one of my only townreads in the game" is +town for ulyana simply because dunn would not feel like he would have the thread position to hard defend a partner. gamma again looks a bit weak from the interaction here, is obviously underwhelming.
I can see this... but it's interesting because this proposes a gamestate that scum have early-on been either protecting their buddy
Ulya
or just defending her as town unnecessarily.

Reminds me of the townreads I got early game.

~~~


I'll review the rest of your post tomorrow
Peta
. :D
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