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Newbie Game Queue (Players and Mods)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:20 pm
by PenguinPower
Welcome to the Newbie Game Queue!
List Moderator: PenguinPower
A big thank you to the previous Newbie List Moderators: Mr. Flay, singersigner, Vel-Rahn Koon, Mina, and UpTooLate!



Newbie Game Specific Information:Newbie games allow both new and seasoned Mafia players to more seamlessly transition into playing elsewhere onsite. We recommend all new users start here, even if they have previous Mafia experience.

To join a game, please reply to this thread with something along the lines of "/in for next". You'll be added to the queue usually within a day or two, and your game will start as soon as it's full. Upcoming games will be full when there is at least three Semi-Experienced (SE) player and four Newbie players available. More SEs may be used in any given game to relieve a backlog on those specific areas of the Queue, or in an effort to fill a game quicker.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):



Types of Players and Their RequirementsThere are two types of players in a Newbie Game; New Players and Semi-Experienced (SE) players.

For purposes of Player Game Limits:
  • A finished game is one in which you are out of the game (by lynch or night kill) but the game is still being played by others.
  • A completed game is a game in which a winning side has been declared and the game is over.
  • For purposes of quantifying eligible completed games, two completed micro games will count as one completed game in another queue. Blitz games do not count as experience.

Taking on too many Newbie games at one time, getting overloaded, and replacing out of those games can get you banned from the Newbie Queue!

You may join the queue as a New Player if:
  • This is your first game on site.
  • You have not completed 5 Newbie games from the beginning (replacing in after Day 1 does not count towards this).
  • Keep in mind, new players who have not finished their first game may only play in one Newbie Game at a time.
  • Brand new players may either play a Newbie game from scratch or replace into an existing Newbie game for your first game.
  • Once you have finished your first Newbie game (by lynch, night kill, or the end of the game) you may sign up for a second Newbie game.
  • Once you have played five Newbie games from scratch you are no longer allowed to play Newbie games (except as a replacement) until you play a game outside The Road to Rome, thereby qualifying as an SE player. See the SE section below for more information.

You may join the queue as an SE if:
  • You have completed 4 games onsite, with at least one of them being outside of the Road to Rome.
  • Players qualified to be a SE may play in as many games as they think they can handle.
  • Replacing out of a game does not count as a completed game for the sake of SE status, outside of exceptional circumstances.

Replacements:
  • If you want to replace into a specific game you should send a PM directly to the Mod instead of posting here.
  • Unless specified, all requested replacements are newbie replacements.
  • Moderators are welcome to replace any slot with a player of a greater level of site experience at their discretion if they are unable to fill the slot with a player of the same level (SEs may replace Newbies, for example. Newbies may NOT replace into a SE spot). Moderators should take into consideration the overall game state when making this decision.
  • Please notify the ListMod if you notice a player replace out who then signs up to play another Newbie game within the next 14 days. Replacing due to boredom or any other similarly selfish reason is NOT acceptable and the offender will be suspended from placement into the Queue for a period of two weeks.

IF YOU ARE SIGNING UP AS AN ALT ACCOUNT:
Established players starting Alt accounts (an account different from their primary account, usually used as a means to play against their established meta) may not /in as a Newbie since they'd be taking a spot away from a true site Newbie. Additionally, since the Alt account itself doesn't qualify, you may not function as SEs under the Alt account either, even if the player behind the account does qualify for one of these positions.

The ONLY way in which a new Alt account may play in a Newbie game is to offer to replace into existing games. Once the account has met the requirements of a SE, you may then /in as a SE player as normal. You may always instead use your primary account to function as a SE if you qualify.

Hydras are sometimes considered a type of alt account, but for the purposes of keeping Newbie Games as normal as possible, they are not allowed in Newbie Games. Hydra accounts will be force-replaced immediately if discovered playing Newbie Games.

Any player is, of course, welcome to join other Game Queues as they feel ready.


ModeratorsModerator Requirements:
  • You may only be in the modding queue twice at a time.
  • Potential moderators must have one completed game on this site as a Moderator, and first-time Newbie moderators must have a back-up moderator. See the Modding Requirements wiki article for exact details.
  • Potential moderators MUST visit the Newbie_Game#Moderators wiki page to see what is required of Newbie game Mods.
  • Potential moderators must include links to their completed games when they make the request to be added to the modding rotation. If you have more than two games as a Mod, please link the latest two.
  • For purposes of quantifying eligible completed games, three completed micro games will count as one completed game in another queue. Blitz games do not count as experience.



Setup Info

Newbie SetupNewbie Setup
2d3 (as designed by Cabd):

ABC
MafiaMafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia Goon
Row 1Town Cop and Town NeapolitanTown Cop and Town TrackerTown Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2Town Jailkeeper and Town DoctorTown Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Neapolitan and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Doctor

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goons and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects. Mafia Roleblocker action takes precedence over a Town Jailkeeper action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Neapolitan, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Neapolitan, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Doctor, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5


First-time mods should use the sample role PMs below.

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)
Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a Town Jailkeeper.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a Town Cop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Town or Mafia. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town NeapolitanWelcome!

You are a Town Neapolitan.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Vanilla Townie or Not Vanilla Townie. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a Town Tracker.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a Town Doctor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a Mafia Goon.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a Mafia Rolecop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment. Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a Mafia Roleblocker.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:22 pm
by PenguinPower
Updated through post:

Moderators:

Micc
Plotinus
teacher (backup mod: Irrelephant11)



Newer Players:

DogDino
Cometbright


* Need to verify status; look for a PM.



Semi-Experienced Players:


RadiantCowbells
Egix96
NotMySpamAccount
Creature
chennisden
GuiltyLion
TTTT
NotMySpamAccount
Vedith
Robbnva
James Brafin
teacher
Taly

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:29 pm
by PenguinPower
Spoiler: Introductory Mod Post
Introduction and TipsThanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):
-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day. Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone plays. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)
Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers
L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role
It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town! While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo
LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion
Mafia is hard! As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum. That's okay! Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game. Have fun!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:39 pm
by PenguinPower
Please note, there have been a few changes. So make sure to read through the OP.

Changes:

  1. Newer Players are allowed to play 3 completed games from scratch before having to qualify as an SE, instead of being restricted to 2 games. (7/30/2017)
  2. 2d3 is the new Newbie Setup (1/2/2018)
  3. Deadlines have been updated to 10 days for Day 1, and 7 days for all further Day phases. Prodding now occurs after 36 hours of inactivity. (7/2/2018)
  4. Replacement requirements for Newbie slots have been updated to allow Moderator discretion depending on the current game state. (7/11/2018)
  5. IC role eliminated and replaced with an additional SE slot. (2/6/2019)
  6. Increased the number of Newbie games newer players may play from 3 to 5. Increased the number of total completed games require to /in as an SE from 3 to 4. Requirement that at least one has to be from outside RtR remains the same. (4/11/2019)

If further changes are implemented this post will be updated.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:47 pm
by Killthestory
In post 16, mykonian wrote:I hear the traditional way of congratulating newbie listmods with their tough job, is supplying a short burst of moderators and IC's so they believe it won't be too bad.

(so you lazy bums, in stead of congratulating but being secretly happy it isn't you, sign up in the newbie thread already :P It's the least you can do)

/in se

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:08 pm
by mhsmith0
Subject: Newbie Game Queue (OLD)

mhsmith0 wrote:
July 29th - Newbie 1812
Moderator: mhsmith0 Status: Day 1, 24 pagesReplacing: jimmyurinemoneyshot


This is a newbie slot and may be replaced by anyone except a newbie currently playing and alive in his/her first newbie game. Newbies will get preferences for newbie slots for the first 24 hours.

Please PM me if you are interested


It is now night 1. Not 24 hours since the announcement, so newbies still have priority.


Filled by innocentvillager. Thanks!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:38 pm
by fferyllt
Newbie 1808 needs a replacement for WhaleBarnicle. Day 2, 37 pages. This is a newbie slot, so players not currently playing their first MS Newbie game are eligible to replace. Priority will be given to true newbies for the first 24 hours. Deadline is paused until this is filled. Additional time for a catch-up will be added once a replacement is found!

PM me if you'd like to join this game!


Taken by NotTheRealPaul. Many thanks!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:47 pm
by singersigner
/in SE

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:50 pm
by ThinkBig
Congrats PenguinPower! Super happy for you.

/in SE

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:12 pm
by WhemeStar
Congrats Penguin

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:19 pm
by Agent Sparkles
ego

Congrats Penguin

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:35 pm
by mallowgeno
Newbie 1810 has concluded with a **********Mafia****** victory!

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72479

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:06 am
by Plotinus
/in to mod

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:20 am
by LicketyQuickety
Ego

Also,

/In SE

Also, Congrats PP.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:34 am
by theslimer3
Sweet, I've immortalized myself on a page one.

Also, how long is the IC queue? Because I might want to give that a shot, but after a month or 2 when I have a bit more time

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:39 am
by Plotinus
In post 14, theslimer3 wrote:Sweet, I've immortalized myself on a page one.

Also, how long is the IC queue? Because I might want to give that a shot, but after a month or 2 when I have a bit more time

there are 6 people ahead of you (it's in ) so it'd be about a month.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:39 am
by osuka
In post 11, mallowgeno wrote:Newbie 1810 has concluded with a **********Mafia****** victory!

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72479

sweet! and on the first page!
@pp: congrats!


also, /in

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:52 am
by DoctorPepper
Ego

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:56 am
by theslimer3
/in IC -2
(shift me down to a negative 2 status if possible)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:31 am
by Agent Sparkles
redacted because I'm dumb

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:33 am
by mastina
In post 14, theslimer3 wrote:Also, how long is the IC queue?
Usually pretty short meaning you get into one of the earlier games to run soon--the main thing contributing to speed from my understanding is how many newbies we get signing up to play.

(Also obligatory congratulations to PenguinPower.)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:24 am
by keyenpeydee
/in to mod

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:59 am
by Not_Mafia
Yo welcome

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:30 am
by Counterpoint
Stealing Yooh and MastaMasta for Newbie 1814 to replace Lucci and joshuamelfano respectively, who failed to pick up their role PMs. Please remove them from the queue!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:51 pm
by ThinkBig
/out SE