Scratch that, I'll be modding a more interesting game
/in to Mod
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:46 am
by BTD6_maker
Who will win if Town wins one subgame but not the other? Also, what is the win condition for the treestumped Townies?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:51 am
by Not_Mafia
/in both
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:55 am
by BNL
This is a tricky part of the setup
I want town to play to their win condition, so townies must try to win their subgame, but they win if town wins either subgame, and they get a double win if they win both subgames.
The wincon of the treestumped townies is to get town to win in both subgames. They cannot sacrifice one to win the other.
The Mafia’s wincon is trickier, they must indepentently try to win their subgames but they win if either one wins, and they get a double win if they both win.
I realise wincons in this game will be chaos, but that does not prevent me from trying this game It probably won’t be a problem if the players are playing to an honor system.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
sounds like fun
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:23 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
In post 710, BNL wrote:This is a tricky part of the setup
I want town to play to their win condition, so townies must try to win their subgame, but they win if town wins either subgame, and they get a double win if they win both subgames.
The wincon of the treestumped townies is to get town to win in both subgames. They cannot sacrifice one to win the other.
The Mafia’s wincon is trickier, they must indepentently try to win their subgames but they win if either one wins, and they get a double win if they both win.
I realise wincons in this game will be chaos, but that does not prevent me from trying this game It probably won’t be a problem if the players are playing to an honor system.
So if the town wins one, and the mafia wins one, everyone wins? Or do the town in sub A win if town win sub A and lose if town lose sub A, no matter what happens in sub B?
What is a "double win"?
What if you just made it so an alignment has to win both games to win, and if both alignments win 1 then they tie?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:52 pm
by BNL
I think the easiest way to put it is
The winner of each subgame wins one point
And each faction tries to get as many points as possible
And I’ll count a town win on Day 1 as town getting 2 points.
Let’s not clog the queue thread. If you want to break my game, do it in my game
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:53 pm
by RadiantCowbells
That seems really unpleasant to be one of the people left out
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:00 pm
by Buki
/in baby too much scum
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:11 pm
by Buki
/out
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:18 am
by Not Known 15
In post 713, BNL wrote:I think the easiest way to put it is
The winner of each subgame wins one point
And each faction tries to get as many points as possible
And I’ll count a town win on Day 1 as town getting 2 points.
Let’s not clog the queue thread. If you want to break my game, do it in my game
I am not trying to clog the queue thread - your submission was incorrect:
In post 707, BNL wrote:Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics? cults,
mid-game alignment changes,
moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game
No
I added the red text - there ARE alignment changes mid-game, de facto, and in a very very unpleasant way that is 100% bastard.
This is a tricky part of the setup
I want town to play to their win condition, so townies must try to win their subgame,
but they win if town wins either subgame,
and they get a double win if they win both subgames.
The wincon of the treestumped townies is to get town to win in both subgames
. They cannot sacrifice one to win the other.
The Mafia’s wincon is trickier, they must indepentently try to win their subgames but they win if either one wins, and they get a double win if they both win.
Let me rephrase that: If the Town fails to lynch Mafia Day 1(a common occurence) then not only the lynched Townie has to win 2 LYLO's instead of one, but
the
mafia can convert two other townies at their own pleasure into massively role and wincon disadvantaged players
who have to win two LYLO's they can neither vote in nor hear, only speak via the moderator, while the others have to win only one LYLO and get full alignment information about the other LYLO in addition.
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:30 am
by Vedith
/in baby too much scum
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:31 am
by Micc
BulletNLynchproof’s game is an open setup. This thread is not a platform to debate its mechanics or validity as a setup. If you’d like to play in his game please /in. If you have questions about how the setup works you are welcome to ask. Please take discussion of everything else to PM’s or a different thread.