Gameshow Mafia (17/17)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Would only one player posting with a silent partner hydra, change anything?

Then that's just getting external help for the game and basically discussing an ongoing game which is kinda sketch.

Would only one player posting with a silent partner hydra, change anything?

Then that's just getting external help for the game and basically discussing an ongoing game which is kinda sketch.

I would argue its against the spirit of the game unless its for teaching purposes (ie a newbie hydraing with an experienced player to advise), but regardless its allowed.

That said I still think hydras are a dumb concept.

No, they’re an amazing concept. I’ve learned a lot from hydraing, things that I never would have learned playing solo. And to suggest having a silent partner is more “sketch” then an active one is ludicrous. It would only be “sketch”, if it was hidden, which would be against the rules anyhow.

You hydra haterz have a right to your opinion but that’s all it is - an opinion. One, unfortunately will take precedence over what more than half the playerlist would prefer.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ehh

/out

Called it. I told you all, some players would out.

[Nancy Drew 39]

/in interested in hydraing but could play solo too

Unfortunately, you no longer get a choice.

[Taly]

No, they’re an amazing concept. I’ve learned a lot from hydraing, things that I never would have learned playing solo. And to suggest having a silent partner is more “sketch” then an active one is ludicrous. It would only be “sketch”, if it was hidden, which would be against the rules anyhow.

You hydra haterz have a right to your opinion but that’s all it is - an opinion. One, unfortunately will take precedence over what more than half the playerlist would prefer.

There's been 6 votes of players vetoing and about 4 other people stating they're alright/happy without hydras - all have which /inned, and have exercised their rightful desire to veto hydras.

If the majority's thoughts are a concern for you, then take it up in PM to the mod about the hydra policy and refrain from dissenting with other people for giving their opinion when they were permitted to do so.

Have you /inned solo,

Nancy

?

We're at 15 solo /ins.

Spoiler: Tracking Solo /ins for Mod's Sake

Playerlist:
Shoshin
mbaki
OkaPoka
StarwingBeauvoi
Taly
momo
RadiantCowbells
Wisdom
JohnnyEnglish

+

/in
VOTE: Veto Hydras

Gonna /in for now since two vetoes have been made

/in

I’m open to hydraing also.

/in

/in

/in interested in hydraing but could play solo too

[momo]

Hey Elsa. Been a while indeed.

Nancy, I definitely agree that hydras can be good tools for learning. That said, I genuinely believe that they should be kept to smaller games. There are a lot of people and mechanics to track in a large theme. There is no need to add another.

To paraphrase Mathdino "Town is given a lot of information throughout the game. There job is to find what it is relevant and analyse it to achieve their wincon" (Mathdino in his thread on improving towns). Adding more things to keep track of is silly.

And yeah Elsa, I just came back to mafia after a long break and am already addicted. Expect me to have an opinion on anything and everything. Near the end of my first run, things got bad, but peak hyperIDGAF!momo is back.

[Creature]

Don't worry, we'll make this game Surreptitious II 2.0 (if I rand town obviously)

[Creature]

This looks promising.

[BNL]

VOTE: veto hydras

This vote is void because Nero is not playing.

But it seems that the players want a hydra free game anyway

Edit: Vedith’s vote doesn’t count either as a replacement

[BNL]

Nancy are you still playing solo?

[GuyInFreezer]

I have no idea what's going on but if hydra is still open I'm willing to hydra

[BNL]

I have no idea what's going on but if hydra is still open I'm willing to hydra

Hydras no longer allowed

[BNL]

Actually I think it's still possible to have 7 hydras, but it's unrealistic at this point and I'll just say no hydras for simplicity.

I'm actually disappointed as well, it looked like interesting hydras were going to be formed and I was looking forward to modding hydras as well. But by player demand I'm going to reject them

[BNL]

Actually

You guys tell me whether what hydras you'll be playing in if you'll be playing in a hydra, and based on the number of players unwilling to play with hydras I'll be manually deciding on whether to allow hydras for this game.

Edit: never mind

[BNL]

So let me tell you the reasoning behind this hydra system:

I wanted people to vote on whether they like hydras or not, so I made it such that people can either vote for hydras, against hydras, or be ambivalent. However, I made it such that the only way to vote for hydras is to be a hydra.

It looks like it's failing, though, because a few votes encourage others to quickly vote up the threshold as high as possible because it forces many hydras into the game, which more people are opposed to.

[mbaki]

again

I dont like hydras but if people want to play as them I'm not gonna be a dick and block them, that's my personal thoughts and why I didnt veto them

[Baezu]

/in

Either solo or willing to hydra if someone would like to

[BNL]

I’m checking if Nancy is in. If she is this game is full. Otherwise there’s one slot left.

[Nancy Drew 39]

No, they’re an amazing concept. I’ve learned a lot from hydraing, things that I never would have learned playing solo. And to suggest having a silent partner is more “sketch” then an active one is ludicrous. It would only be “sketch”, if it was hidden, which would be against the rules anyhow.

You hydra haterz have a right to your opinion but that’s all it is - an opinion. One, unfortunately will take precedence over what more than half the playerlist would prefer.

There's been 6 votes of players vetoing and about 4 other people stating they're alright/happy without hydras - all have which /inned, and have exercised their rightful desire to veto hydras.

If the majority's thoughts are a concern for you, then take it up in PM to the mod about the hydra policy and refrain from dissenting with other people for giving their opinion when they were permitted to do so.

Have you /inned solo,

Nancy

?

We're at 15 solo /ins.

Spoiler: Tracking Solo /ins for Mod's Sake

Playerlist:
Shoshin
mbaki
OkaPoka
StarwingBeauvoi
Taly
momo
RadiantCowbells
Wisdom
JohnnyEnglish

+

/in
VOTE: Veto Hydras

Gonna /in for now since two vetoes have been made

/in

I’m open to hydraing also.

/in

/in

/in interested in hydraing but could play solo too

I haven’t a right to express my “dissenting” opinion?

[Nancy Drew 39]

again

I dont like hydras but if people want to play as them I'm not gonna be a dick and block them, that's my personal thoughts and why I didnt veto them

Fair

[Nancy Drew 39]

So let me tell you the reasoning behind this hydra system:

I wanted people to vote on whether they like hydras or not, so I made it such that people can either vote for hydras, against hydras, or be ambivalent. However, I made it such that the only way to vote for hydras is to be a hydra.

It looks like it's failing, though, because a few votes encourage others to quickly vote up the threshold as high as possible because it forces many hydras into the game, which more people are opposed to.

The vetoes exceeded the limit by one, so not possible.

[Nero Cain]

This vote is void because Nero is not playing.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I’m checking if Nancy is in. If she is this game is full. Otherwise there’s one slot left.

Okay /in.

@Taly, you know I adore you and for reasons I don’t want to get into here, I hope I haven’t given you a different impression. I still do stand by what I’ve said so far but with thankfully more perspective. <3

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: veto hydras

Not counted - Mod

#banallhydras

So, I guess you’re not interested in hydraing with me then?

[RadiantCowbells]

Start the game pls

If you roll me scum I'm never talking to you again

[Nancy Drew 39]

Hey Elsa. Been a while indeed.

Nancy, I definitely agree that hydras can be good tools for learning. That said, I genuinely believe that they should be kept to smaller games. There are a lot of people

and mechanics to track

in a large theme. There is no need to add another.

To paraphrase Mathdino "Town is given a lot of information throughout the game. There job is to find what it is relevant and analyse it to achieve their wincon" (Mathdino in his thread on improving towns). Adding more things to keep track of is silly.

And yeah Elsa, I just came back to mafia after a long break and am already addicted. Expect me to have an opinion on anything and everything. Near the end of my first run, things got bad, but peak hyperIDGAF!momo is back.

The bolded was precisely the reason, I felt so strongly about needing to be in one. i feel that not being in a hydra will probably have me at a serious disadvantage in this game because of it. I hope not though.