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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:46 am

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Surreptitious: The Game of Spies


You are in the Cold War. You live day to day playing a risky game of death trying to find out more than the enemy. Every night is a chance for great success, or terrible failure. The stakes are high in this game, and you will have to be able to deduce much if you want to give your team an edge to either end the game quickly by sussing out the opposition, or using cleaver misdirection to keep the enemy from knowing your secrets. The spies are everywhere and its up to you to find out who you can trust and who you can choose to let go. This is a game of choice. You have to think fast if you want to keep the enemy off your tail. Every choice is a calculated risk where choosing correctly rewards you greatly and choosing poorly will be devastating.

The concept behind this game is based largely on investigative roles. All Power Roles are on either gaining knowledge from investigating or misdirecting. When I say the stakes are high in this game I really mean that. Either faction can win this game by Day 2 in this 15 player, very swingy, but balanced game.

Before you decide whether to join this game or not, you really should read the setup, because if you don't you are not going to know what in the heck is going on and why people are voting for Group 1, 2, or 3. Also looking at just the roles is not going to tell you how this game is going to function, so be aware of that.

So read these Mechanics carefully when considering if you want to join or not.

15 Players


Town:

Watcher
Neapolitan
Friendly Neighbor
Universal Backup
7X VT


Mafia:

Follower
Rolestopper
Goon
Traitor




Mechanics


When the game starts, you are put into one of 3 Groups. Players then vote for a Group by simple majority (>50% of votes). This is Day Phase I (DPI). When a group is chosen, it moves on to Day Phase II (DPII). You have 7 irl days to chose a Group in DPI. If there is a hammer on a Group before DPI ends, then that remaining time is given to DPII. DPII is for voting for who to lynch. NOTE: If your Group was chosen, you cannot vote for who to lynch, you can only argue who you want to lynch or defend yourself from lynch. Votes for who is Lynched is also decided by simple majority (>50%) with ofc the caveat that players in that group can't vote in DPII. After a Lynch has been made, the Mafia MUST NK from that same Group that was chosen in DPI if they wish to do a NK. If a Group isn't chosen by the end of DPI then the game goes immediately to Night Phase (NP) and Mafia can NK anyone they wish. I will put a countdown timer for both the end of DPI and DPII in the vote counts. Upon a simple majority being chosen in DPI, DPII immediately is in effect. This means that if I am not there at that exact time to confirm the end of DPI, votes for Lynch in DPII will count. NP is 2 irl days (48 hours). When a Mafia member is lynch from a Group, then the group consolidates into two different Groups. Remaining TPRs, Mafia members and VT will be distributed across the other two groups as evenly as possible via RNG. During NP, anyone can use their ability on anyone they wish, role permitting. When a second Mafia member is lynch from the second Group, the two Groups then merge into a single group and game plays as normal. There will be a TPR for each Group and a Mafia member for each Group. The rest of the Groups are filled with VTs, with a few exceptions: the Mafia Traitor and Universal Backup are both placed into a Random group, both done separately via RNG. Also with that, The Traitor doesn't actually count as a Mafia member. They still win with Mafia if Mafia wins, but what this really means that even though there is two Mafia members in a single Group (Mafia member + Traitor), if the Mafia member who is not a Traitor is Lynched then The groups consolidate into two Groups like they normally would. Also, If Town is Lynched in the group that the Traitor is in, since the Traitor doesn't count as Mafia until all other Mafia members are dead, then it is not Game over. But NOTE: Traitor always shares the same win con as Mafia. All Night Action throughout the course of the game proceed as normal barring the Mafia NK.

This game requires you to post at least 1 time per 48 hour period. If you have not posted for 48 hours you will get a prod. After 3 prods you will be replaced unless you PM me to tell me you are V/LA



Win Conditions:


Towns Win Condition is to eliminate all members of the mafia.
Mafias Win Condition is to have a majority in any one group or nothing can prevent this. Traitor does not count toward majority of a Group until they are the only Mafia member left alive.



Note:
This game is extremely swingy, so if swingy games are not your cup of tea, I would avoid this one.



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  1. Nero Cain
  2. Lil Uzi Vert
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  4. -Grey-
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  10. Woodboys2339
  11. SnarkySnowman
  12. TTTT
  13. SlySly
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  15. Almost50
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:45 am

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In post 7, McMenno wrote:could you give some examples of how the game would play out maybe?
Part of the fun is figuring out that for yourself. There is optimal play, but I'm not going to tell you what that is.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:03 am

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In post 9, Nero Cain wrote:its an open game? yuck. Though I made a commitment so I'll stick with it.
The game only works as an Open.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:50 am

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In post 14, -Grey- wrote:
In post 10, Ramcius wrote:
In post 8, -Grey- wrote:
In post 7, McMenno wrote:could you give some examples of how the game would play out maybe?
It starts with /in

And ends with Town Victory!
nah, it ends with town shouting on each other for letting mafia win D2 :D

/in
this game sounds fun
Just be informed that I'll be tunneling you until one of us are dead.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:02 am

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In post 18, momo wrote:Does anyone wish to hydra.

I really want to try a hydra.
Hydras are not allowed in this game.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:17 am

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In post 25, momo wrote:I would like to thank the academy, my family, a billion random people, start crying, start cheering and well ummmmmmmmmmmmmm be shocked.
Don't worry about it. Just make sure you read the setup carefully.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:49 am

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In post 28, BTD6_maker wrote:/Confirm. I am willing to hydra with Momo.
Glad you are confirming even though you think it is Scum sided. I said this on the last page but Hydras are not allowed in this game. Sorry, you'll have to Hydra with momo in another game.
This setup seems scumsided but Town can still try to form a strategy.
This setup was approved by zoraster so I expect it is balanced reasonably well. Its just really really swingy.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:52 pm

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I'll let someone else who knows about what's going on with Hydras because I am tired of repeating myself.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:59 pm

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In post 33, -Grey- wrote:
In post 32, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'll let someone else know about what's going on with Hydras because I am tired of repeating myself.
I'll be your echo chamber as long as you give me Rolestopper.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:05 pm

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In post 35, Transcend wrote:/out

not sure if i can do another solo, sorry LQ hmu if you need a replacement
K, let me know if you change you mind.

Is that a yeah on replacement list?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:06 pm

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In post 40, Transcend wrote:you know what people seem sad i left.

/in again

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LOL. Thanks, I was looking forward to you being in this game when you /inned.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:32 am

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In post 43, Randomnamechange wrote:so like should i read the setup up or nah?
There are a couple of points in the OP you might want to take away from the game to decide if this game is right for you or not.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #12) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:26 am

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LOL. I hope you are joking. Going to assume you are.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #13) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:29 am

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In post 51, TTTT wrote:OMG LQ IS IN THIS GAME!?!?!

LQ HYDRA WITH ME!!!
OK, that's funny.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #14) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:16 am

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In post 55, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 45, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 43, Randomnamechange wrote:so like should i read the setup up or nah?
There are a couple of points in the OP you might want to take away from the game to decide if this game is right for you or not.
i was mostly joking, ive skimmed it and understand the basic premises, just haven't analysed actual strats yet.
I don't expect too many people to really start theorizing on what to do until at least I give them their roles and make the OP(s) to game thread.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #15) » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:40 am

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In post 57, Ramcius wrote:
In post 56, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 55, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 45, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 43, Randomnamechange wrote:so like should i read the setup up or nah?
There are a couple of points in the OP you might want to take away from the game to decide if this game is right for you or not.
i was mostly joking, ive skimmed it and understand the basic premises, just haven't analysed actual strats yet.
I don't expect too many people to really start theorizing on what to do until at least I give them their roles and make the OP(s) to game thread.
it's really simple - D1 ML, D2 vote same group and ML again, easy mafia win on D2 :D
There is that, yeah.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:58 pm

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In post 60, momo wrote:
GUYS D1 WE ALL VOTE LQ IN RVS!!!! GOT IT??


He won't let us hydra with him :(
What if I said if you lynch the mod, the game is over? Would it be worth it?
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Post Post #64 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 63, -Grey- wrote:
In post 62, Alisae wrote:
In post 61, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 60, momo wrote:
GUYS D1 WE ALL VOTE LQ IN RVS!!!! GOT IT??


He won't let us hydra with him :(
What if I said if you lynch the mod, the game is over? Would it be worth it?
Yes
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Post Post #66 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:50 pm

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In post 65, Woodboys2339 wrote:
In post 64, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 63, -Grey- wrote:
In post 62, Alisae wrote:
In post 61, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 60, momo wrote:
GUYS D1 WE ALL VOTE LQ IN RVS!!!! GOT IT??


He won't let us hydra with him :(
What if I said if you lynch the mod, the game is over? Would it be worth it?
Yes
Yes
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Absolutely not. I spent way too much time making this game for it to end like that.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:59 pm

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In post 67, -Grey- wrote:Then don't end the game if you're lynched. :P
I will not even be counting votes for myself.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:30 am

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I'd appreciate comments on this setup after the game is over from people who played in it. You guys think you can do that?
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Post Post #80 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:14 am

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In post 75, -Grey- wrote:I'm smelling a 500 post d1.

Just from me.
Seems I am going to be busy for a few weeks.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #22) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:27 am

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In post 81, Ramcius wrote:
In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 75, -Grey- wrote:I'm smelling a 500 post d1.

Just from me.
Seems I am going to be busy for a few weeks.
optimist :D
What is that supposed to mean? :evil:
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Post Post #84 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 83, Ramcius wrote:
In post 82, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 81, Ramcius wrote:
In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 75, -Grey- wrote:I'm smelling a 500 post d1.

Just from me.
Seems I am going to be busy for a few weeks.
optimist :D
What is that supposed to mean? :evil:
"few weeks" with 2 week long days and game full of spammers :D
Yeah, you guys seem to be liking the whole "abuse the mod" thing. :P
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Post Post #87 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:12 pm

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In post 86, -Grey- wrote:
In post 0, LicketyQuickety wrote:Either faction can win this game by Day 2 in this 15 player, very swingy, but balanced game.
I'd love to hear how town could win this game in two days.
I'm sure you'll figure it out.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:14 pm

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In post 85, Sesq wrote:ill join in if you have a slot avalible
With you in that leaves one slot left.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:19 pm

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In post 89, -Grey- wrote:Five mafia.
Come again?
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Post Post #93 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:40 pm

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In post 92, Ramcius wrote:4 days for town at least, only mafia have easy win, so i'm dibs mafia in advance :D
Wrong. Town can win by the second lynch.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:45 am

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In post 95, Ramcius wrote:
In post 93, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 92, Ramcius wrote:4 days for town at least, only mafia have easy win, so i'm dibs mafia in advance :D
Wrong. Town can win by the second lynch.
ok, maybe mafia can kill traitor instead recruit on attack, that makes still 3 mafia to lynch, so how town can win by second lynch?
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Post Post #99 (isolation #29) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:24 am

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In post 97, Ramcius wrote:
In post 96, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 95, Ramcius wrote:
In post 93, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 92, Ramcius wrote:4 days for town at least, only mafia have easy win, so i'm dibs mafia in advance :D
Wrong. Town can win by the second lynch.
ok, maybe mafia can kill traitor instead recruit on attack, that makes still 3 mafia to lynch, so how town can win by second lynch?
POE.
i got your point

how will be resolved nk after mafia lynch? i just wondering if mafia gets kill and groups will be merged next day, or groups merged and no nk
Even if Mafia is Lynched, they still need to NK from that group.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #30) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:24 am

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In post 98, momo wrote:LQ is being no fun. :(

He won't tell us.
I've said plenty... too much in fact.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #31) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:05 am

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I'll try and start this on Monday!!!
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Post Post #107 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:25 am

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In post 51, TTTT wrote:OMG LQ IS IN THIS GAME!?!?!

LQ HYDRA WITH ME!!!
Funniest post in this thread.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #33) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:04 pm

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In post 108, momo wrote:LQ thinks TTTT is funnier than me. Clearly he is a biased mod.
Nothing but love for ya, momo.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #34) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:25 pm

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In post 111, Sesq wrote:i am the funniest though
OK, LOL.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #35) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 113, Sesq wrote:have you seen me on discord

have you?
I... have not.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #36) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:36 pm

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In post 115, momo wrote:Since I know you are active LQ, I am expecting a VC every 3 pages.
Going to play it by feel.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #37) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:42 am

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In post 117, momo wrote:When does game start
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I'll have roles out sometime Today.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #38) » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:05 am

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In post 123, Fredrick E Campbell wrote:/in as replacement
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