Yea, I guess youve got to be a dirty scumlord to win?
sounds interesting enough, but that optional venge
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
In post 4301, chilledtea wrote:The only realistic way that town can win is by taking out two mafia by vengekilling which seems really difficult.
Well, they can always get them lynched. The two Mafia can't claim because then they get venged the minute a VT gets lynched.
If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.
Oddly, I think I would love to be a VT in this set-up, precisely because it sounds so challenging.
^ I forgot town had a Neapolitan, so just imagine I said "town" in all the places I said VT.
In post 4306, Postie wrote:If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.
Also if the Mafia Neapolitan is still alive and the remaining town member is a VT then this is autoloss I think.
In post 4301, chilledtea wrote:The only realistic way that town can win is by taking out two mafia by vengekilling which seems really difficult.
Well, they can always get them lynched. The two Mafia can't claim because then they get venged the minute a VT gets lynched.
If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.
Oddly, I think I would love to be a VT in this set-up, precisely because it sounds so challenging.
Doubtful. Traitors would be really stupid to lynch a mafia, rather if the mafia does claim he escapes the lynch and the lynch can end up on someone else prefereably VT. If the Vengekill takes out mafia at least it is 1 for 1 trade.
In post 4303, chilledtea wrote:Seems similar to reverse-mafia in a way where townies are supposed to play like scum.
well no?
One game you win by being as town as possible and its up to mafia to play to blend in, like normal.
the focus of this game is to townhunt, not scumhunt
another is about town under unusual circumstances and forced to blend in. by balancing scum meta with the need to be political and the need to focus on one group.
town in traitor game are essrntially forced to hope the uniformed and informed scum cross wires.
the differences are relatovely deep.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
In post 4303, chilledtea wrote:Seems similar to reverse-mafia in a way where townies are supposed to play like scum.
well no?
One game you win by being as town as possible and its up to mafia to play to blend in, like normal.
the focus of this game is to townhunt, not scumhunt
another is about town under unusual circumstances and forced to blend in. by balancing scum meta with the need to be political and the need to focus on one group.
town in traitor game are essrntially forced to hope the uniformed and informed scum cross wires.
the differences are relatovely deep.
That's true. What I wanted to say was this game will be something like reverse of what generally happens in a mafia game - town will be the ones attempting to blend-in (with a little bit of town-hunting) and scum will be doing most of the analysis.
In post 4308, chilledtea wrote:Doubtful. Traitors would be really stupid to lynch a mafia, rather if the mafia does claim he escapes the lynch and the lynch can end up on someone else prefereably VT. If the Vengekill takes out mafia at least it is 1 for 1 trade.
True. But then if they get both Mafia run up to the point where they are forced to out themselves, they've won if they still have... it's either two or three members; the original post doesn't say whether town need one of their members alive to win.
In post 4306, Postie wrote:If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.
I've just realised this isn't correct at all. Town can win by killing all traitors
or
killing all "normal" Mafia, so the scum would need to have at least one traitor and at least one regular Mafia alive in lylo, and getting either of them lynched would result in a town victory. And if town don't need a member alive to win, it's actually autowin for them.
In post 4316, chilledtea wrote:I think if the traitors don't vengekill unless they are sure, they will have an easier time winning.
Yeah, although they can't
really
be sure unless they're the Neapolitan and have identified all their other living teammates, or are the last townie alive. Town are kind-of in a lose-lose situation wrt how towny or scummy they should act - too town and they risk being lynched or venged by scum; too scummy and they risk being venged by their own faction; nullish and they risk being investigated by the Mafia Neapolitan.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
Maestro, are you in or out?
If you're out, I'm allowing hydras.
If you're still in, I'm not.
I don't feel comfortable forcing you to decide. You let me know whether I should be in or out - usually with hydras I go on the fence, but a three-header is not something I want to play with.
- 1 Week days, 2 day nights
- No hydras
- Because this game is so focused, I'll allow WotC. PM me, dont pu it in thread.
- There will be scum daychat, and I will release it upon completion. You may discuss with me any edits that might be made.
Pre-in from Red Coyote and Aristophanes
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.