NewbScum Greeting Tell

This forum is for discussion related to the game.
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #45 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:06 am

Post by u r a person 2 »

a greeting post is any post that greets the entire thread, rather than a specific player or players. Usually this comes at the start of a post, but I've also seen it come in the middle of posts. Scum can be tricky, after all ;P

Your post is a classic example!

Loopdan, I really appreciate you putting this together, lol
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #46 (isolation #1) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:09 am

Post by u r a person 2 »

Another way to look at it is that on average roughly one newb scum a game is going to use a greeting tell. I know that's not a hard conclusion of the data posted because games could have 2 se scum, etc, but it gives a very early, and statistically indicative way to focus my attention in newbie games and I like that.
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #47 (isolation #2) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:10 am

Post by u r a person 2 »

Anecdotally it is super not effective against people with like 5 games under their belt or one game with me
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #65 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:11 pm

Post by u r a person 2 »

all i know, is that if you look at newbie slots with 1st post thread-wide greetings and one of those slots look scummy independent of this tell, they are probably scum

and if you look at those slots and all of them look townie outside of that, your scum is probably in the SEs

and if no one greets the thread, your scum is probably in the SEs
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #68 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:41 pm

Post by u r a person 2 »

In post 66, Jingle wrote:What if you are scum? Please advise.
scum read greeting and never look back ;P
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #69 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:43 pm

Post by u r a person 2 »

In post 67, John Pierce Gantt wrote:This is my first post in my first (well, somewhat) game.
In post 18, John Pierce Gantt wrote:Greetings. If my name is too long for you to type, you may call me JP Gantt or just JP.
Just don't call me JPG because I am a real life human being, not some pixelated piece of art.

With that said.
@Inferno390
, why are you bothered about the miller claim now instead of few hours before, when you placed a vote?
I was town though.
this is the kind of post where I would immediately call it a likely false positive because line 2 and the question don't jive with my expectation for uncomfortable scum entrances where greetings are produced
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #81 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:36 am

Post by u r a person 2 »

Is it possible to use your dataset to check this tell on a higher sample siZe easily?
103-11 0-2
User avatar
u r a person 2
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5023
Joined: December 9, 2018

Post Post #85 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:54 pm

Post by u r a person 2 »

okay, that's not a precise recreation but that tracks with my experiences outside of newbie games
103-11 0-2

Return to “Mafia Discussion”