Consistency of the Rule Regarding Quotation

[Jake The Wolfie]

For contexxt, the example that has driven me to action here is this modkill, which did have listmod approval. I'm not particularly happy with the way that this "murky situation" is being addressed by the list mods when it arises, and would prefer a consistently defined approach to how that situation is resolved in a way that does not result in unnecessary game-damaging modkills

What I'm seeing here is "Look! Mastina fluffed up what she copied, and therefore hath

sinned

! She will promptly be executed for.. her good-faith attempt to claim!"

[Jake The Wolfie]

To clarify: I am not trying to lacerate an old wound of Unwnd's. After reading what went on in that game, I can understand how this has happened. Were better circumstances to be implemented here, things might have been different. I apologize to unwnd if they take offense to this. I am not trying to harass Unwnd here, as they were trying to run their game in good faith.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think there is something missing here, when a player is transmitting their role PM:

Only that player knows what their role PM says exactly. Any other players they are trying to transmit their role PM to does not know what their role pm says exactly.

There are a few minor caveats to this (Mafia members will most likely know eachother's role PMs) but aside from those, the above statement should be a core consideration.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Looking at Mastina's claim, it looks normal. I wasn't in the game, but if I were I suspect that I wouldn't've thought "Oh, Mastina is copying what her role PM says." because I, as a player, would not have known what Mastina's role PM said.

[Jake The Wolfie]

"I can't die, even if a player modkills me.
The only time I can die is if the Moderator Modkills me"

If you were a player in a game and you had just seen this claim, could you determine if this is copying from their role, or paraphrasing their role?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Because, if you have been on the site for 4 years, and in your experience, there is only 1 example of the current system having the wrong ruling - then is that really a big problem? A system that "maybe" messes up once every 4 years?

It's not a big problem, because of its frequency. When the problem happens however, it can blow up a game.
We should therefore strive to minimize errors.

[Jake The Wolfie]

"I can't die, even if a player modkills me.
The only time I can die is if the Moderator Modkills me"

If you were a player in a game and you had just seen this claim, could you determine if this is copying from their role, or paraphrasing their role?

They're paraphrasing at best because a player can't modkill anyone. I'd assume they're lying about their role

Spoiler: The role itself

Here is the role

I'd like anyone to answer my post, even if it's only internally, before looking at what the role is.

[Jake The Wolfie]

The same way you'd find out if a player secretly PMed everyother player in the game their role PM in secret: You can't unless someone fesses up.