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Post Post #925  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:22 pm

In post 922, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 921, RH9 wrote:Isn't Famous like Superstar, X-Result like X-Hit, Cursed like Flying, and Obsessive like Fixed?
Famous is described as passive Superstar (Superstar usually allows you to reveal yourself)


Looked up Superstar, that's not entirely what I mean. The identity of the role's owner wouldn't be revealed at the beginning, just that it exists. Like the town is informed at the beginning of the game that there is a Famous Loyal Doctor in the game, but not who it is or what alignment it is. The same effect could technically be done by making everyone informed with that information and including in that informed role that everyone else is informed as well, but that's a rather clunky way to do it. This would just streamline the process of doing that.

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Post Post #926  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:47 pm

Oh, I see.

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Post Post #927  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:44 pm

Announcing a role exists at the start is allowed without need for a specific role
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Post Post #928  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:43 am

How about
Survivalist - role which contains this modifier will fail, if the caster dies while using it
giv me pagetop :(

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Post Post #929  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:28 am

pretty niche modifier, like, manipulative roles only
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Post Post #930  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:19 pm

I had mostly vigilante in mind to prevent him from claiming before he shoots.
giv me pagetop :(

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Post Post #931  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:31 pm

sounds like it has a similar but less versatile utility than fast / slow

it could work in normals though i guess
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Post Post #932  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:34 pm

In post 928, Kerset wrote:How about
Survivalist - role which contains this modifier will fail, if the caster dies while using it

what happens if a survivalist jailkeeper targets the mafioso who is attempting to kill the said survivalist jailkeeper
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Post Post #933  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:02 pm

The same thing as if Multitasking Roleblocker Mafioso targeted Jailkeeper.
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Post Post #934  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:21 pm

In post 932, Datisi wrote:
In post 928, Kerset wrote:How about
Survivalist - role which contains this modifier will fail, if the caster dies while using it

what happens if a survivalist jailkeeper targets the mafioso who is attempting to kill the said survivalist jailkeeper


i would say the jailkeep roleblocks the mafioso, the kill is prevented
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Post Post #935  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:23 pm

In post 930, Kerset wrote:I had mostly vigilante in mind to prevent him from claiming before he shoots.

I was about to mention this
because there was a theme game I played recently where I was paranoid of a vig being around and had to basically contort night actions in a way to handle that + multiple other real threats
so being able to kill the vig and negate the shot at the same time would have been neat
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Post Post #936  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:06 pm

modifier, even if not ultimately normal, would still be useful to describe some action resolution, for instance my standard that recruitment is stopped by kills
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Post Post #937  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:11 pm

If that gets combined with reverse-weak on a vigilante you can make a desperado fwiw
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Post Post #938  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:54 pm

Should Compulsive Multitasking roles format their list in a way which makes it more clear on who they target each night?

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Post Post #939  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:55 pm

I don't see why actions should ever be submitted in a way that makes their meaning ambiguous. Could you give me an example of what you mean?

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Post Post #940  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:58 pm

To be clear my answer is yes if not already the case.

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Post Post #941  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:04 pm

In post 939, Ythan wrote:I don't see why actions should ever be submitted in a way that makes their meaning ambiguous. Could you give me an example of what you mean?

If the list is:
  • X1
  • X2
  • X3
  • X4

And the player was a Town Compulsive Multitasking Doctor Cop, the mod might think that the first two people are for the Doctor and Cop actions respectively even though the player might have intended otherwise.

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Post Post #942  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:39 am

Well, just give separate lists for both roles, i don't see why it can't work like that
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Post Post #943  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:12 am

I see now, I wasn't familiar with the normal guidelines on the compulsive modifier. That does sort of interact oddly with multitasking but at the same time if you fail to submit an action you have Fucked Up and those guidelines are only there to ensure that a non random method exists to resolve the situation as per normal guidelines. I don't think there's any reason at all to worry about what the absentee compulsive intended with the list.

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Post Post #944  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:33 am

yeah true, the list is just a backup option really
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