Experienced Players in Newbie Games - Responsibility

[PolarBoy]

Or several. This has been discussed up and down for a long time. I should probably wade through the old threads and write a consensus article on the wiki(anybody else could do the same).

At any rate, lurking is basically considered incredibly poor form, and while it's not necessarily an indication of scumminess, it does often inspire voting as a method of discouraging such behavior.

A problem with voting lurkers is that if they weren't interested in the game or weren't paying any attention in the first place, threatening to kill them won't necessarily get their interest.

So we're basically left with the dilemma that voting, and eventually lynching, lurkers is not necessarily good play, and doesn't necessarily reduce the number of lurkers by metagaming, while lurkers messes with the chemistry of the game.

I don't understand how not killing other scum night one can possibly considered bad technique, unless someone knows an intelligent way to identify scum before anything has happened.

Forgive me for sounding elitist or snobby or whatever, but why is it that so much advice in this thread is coming from people who joined in the last six monthes? At the very least it's somewhat ironic. I guess it's inspired some dialogue though, so wahtever.

[PolarBoy]

I was referring to newbie games.

Just for fun, here a top 10 things newbies should learn from a newbie game

This was a list of things newbies were supposed to learn from a newbie game that they could apply to regular games.

Why are we compiling this list? It's beginning to look like Frankenstein's monster with hot sauce on top.

[PolarBoy]

I was about to tell you about some awesome wiki articles that delve into concepts rather than just telling you the rules, but it looks like some of them have disappeared. I shall have to investigate further. Meanwhile, it is editable. The reason these pages don't exist is because no one has written them.

With that being said there's a lot that can be dredged out of the forums as well. Most of the things people ask about have been discussed before at great length. Sometimes a wiki article is based on the consensus or controversy that arises from a particular thread.

[PolarBoy]

11.B.i.alinea 15.

Killing

other scums (SK killing Mafia and reciprocally) on the first night is poor tech.

Fixed. Me no brain.

This really doesn't affect my objection. Like I said: it's impossible to know town or scum on night one if the game starts at night, and nearly impossible if the game starts in day. Judgements as to what technique is good or bad have little value when no one has a choice anyway. Am I missing something?

This is to say nothing of whether it actually is bad technique to leave opposing scum alive, given that you know who they are.