Limited Post Mafia

[VinnyQ]

How about limited post mafia? To prevent those long days journey into nights situation.Only allow each player to post only a limited number of time each day. ;Two or Three would be a good number. ;Once you use up your post, you're screw if you want to go back and unvote/revote somebody. ;No going back to reedit post.Days would go by a lot quicker, and people would put more thoughts into their post.

[VinnyQ]

Ant, the main thing I was trying to address was the fact that some of the mafia games accumulated so much post in one day (e.g. 4 pages) that people just end up skimming them and voting randomly because they don't bother reading them after a while, or don't bother going back to previous day to reread post when they have the need to (or maybe that's just me being lazy).But the reluctance to post first would be a problem. ;Mith's idea might be able to address that, or we could do something like allow them to vote as much as they like, but only post one non-voting post (or verbal post) during the day to express their opinion/idea/suspicion. ;It'll keep the game fast, simple, and clean. ;And it'll force people to think more and not just vote the first bandwagon that comes rolling along, and to put more thoughts into their verbal post.I don't think mafia would have that big of an advantage, cuz what a lot of people mostly end up doing is analyzing voting patterns.Also, I am sure mith, DP and some of the other expert roles maker can think up of some townie roles that could use that limitation as an advantage or maf roles that are slightly handicapped by the limitation.

[VinnyQ]

Corndog, sheep boy.Like i said, it was just an idea. ;Not a very good one, huh? ;But we won't know unless we try it. ;I am going to try to come up with some roles for a minigame and see if I can get it to balance. ;Mind if I run it by you after I throw something together?

[VinnyQ]

All rite Antrax (and others;  Feel free to comment and criticise, ridicule even, I won't mind):Small game of 16 players (or would this be consider medium?):4 mafias2 cops1 doc6 townies3 masonswith the caveats that 1)  the 4 mafias, though in the same family, only know one other member (but share the win)e.g.  maf1 maf2 know each other but not maf3 maf4and maf3 maf4 know each other but not maf1 maf2.and2)  there will only be one verbal post allows per day.  You may vote and unvote as much as you like.  FOS, ROG, etc, are consider verbal post.  Confirm vote to lock in your vote (unchangable) to end the day (if all votes are confirmed, the day will end ahead of time).3)  (maybe)  allow townies the ability to hide from nite kill 1 time, at their own choosingHow about it?

[VinnyQ]

You can Vote first, Antrax.  The point is not to waste your breath saying things like This is a random vote or OMG you sux or couldn't kill me at nite, huh?But maybe 3 posts per day would be better.Also, I thought I balanced the mafia advantages by having the 3 masons and having the mafia not knowing who the other 2 of their fellow members are.  You don't think that'll swing the advantage over to the side of townie a little?  They could lynch their fellow members for all they know, or shoot them in the dark.Thanks for the comments, Luna.  I am trying to get mith to make me a mod.I guess I'll thank Antrax also, while I am at it.    Keep those constructive criticisms coming, Ant.  We'll get this right yet.  I already have Luna agreing with the endless day and miles of dialog state of affair, and that's enuff for me to want to make this work.We can always add more cops roles, or more masons, etc, to give townie more power.  Here's another idea.  How bout letting the cops work with each other?  That would give town a HUGE advantage, maybe enough to overcome the limited post situation (a good thing).What I am trying NOT to do is to give the town too much power.  I want it to be evenly balanced.

[VinnyQ]

Antrax, you gotta turn your sarcasm down a tad.  I totally miss out on the don't post comment.  What were you referring to?And    cuz Ant wouldn't even give the game a chance.  I don't think this is the same as the Silent Mafia at all.  You can talk, just not ramble.(Maybe Ant just like to talk a lot )

[VinnyQ]

What the heck are you two doing??? Trying to beat each other posts to the minute????  Sheeesssshhh

[VinnyQ]

Antrax, I wasn't trying to be clever or innovative. ;I just don't like mucking through endless circular arguments, sometimes missing the important one. ;I like playing mafia games, especially the themed one, and I did enjoy reading the earlier mafia games played on the GL. ;But in many of the mafia games I have played in recently I hardly tried to pay attention and keep up with them anymore because it's just too much to read. ;Quote dislike the basic idea of limiting your most potent, and often only, weapon, your postsI disagree. ;I think your most potent (but not only) weapon, should be your brain. ;Reason it out by what others are doing.Yes, I do think posts are necessary for defense, trickery, accusation, etc. ;Just not 4 pages of it in a day.And believe me, I really do appreciate your criticism. ;Helps me see it from different angles.

[VinnyQ]

And I don't even want to mod this game. ;I want to play it ;I am just throwing it out there.Say ... Antrax ... since you're not gonna playing in it ... would you like to mod it? ;If we get it tweaks and everything?

[VinnyQ]

Now we are talking Yeah, do sign up in the waiting list in place of me. ;I already made a request, just tell mith that you would be replacing me instead. ;I have never mod a game before, except in GLC.Let me throw the revised rules together again and see what we should change:16 players4 mafias2 cops1 doc6 townies3 masonswith the caveats that 1) ;the 4 mafias, though in the same family, only know one other member (but share the win) ;(-- really wants opinions on this one, Ant)e.g. ;maf1 maf2 know each other but not maf3 maf4and maf3 maf4 know each other but not maf1 maf2.and2) ;Players are only allow 3 verbal post allows per day. ;You may vote and unvote as much as you like. ;FOS, ROG, etc, are consider verbal post. ;Confirm vote to lock in your vote (unchangable) to end the day (if all votes are confirmed, the day will end ahead of time).3) ;Allow townies the ability to hide from nite kill 1 time, at their own choosingand 4) ... I am considering the possiblity of allowing the cops to work together, but that would mean it would take approx 8 nites to get roles of everybody, so ... about 4 nites (50% chance) of finding all the maf? ;Not sure about this one also, plz comment.

[VinnyQ]

Hey, now that I think about it, I think my idea would still work, and I think that the game play would be somewhat different from Ant's focused maf. ;The main thing is that yes, the posts will be limited, but because of the rule where the mafioso doesn't know who some of their members are force them to be in the same boat as the townies. ;They have to figure out/guess what the roles are based on limited info, same as townies. ;I would prbly allow the mafia the choice to not make nite kills, and the kill will alternate between the two mafia group. ;The mod will have to inform the proper group at nite to make their kill.And I have decided against allowing the cops to work together.