Where can I find behind-the-scenes scum strategies?

[Antihero]

hmmmmmmm....

i wonder if i still have the link to the scum qt of antihero reboot...

[Antihero]

I DO

here's what i'm talking about
mini 1504: antihero mafia reboot
and here's the scum qt (yes, this was back when we used quicktopic): http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/yVgS3tMuM9Sk

it was pretty awesome watching the scum qt for that one and how it developed parallel to the game thread. the scumteam had a lot of synergy and was really strong

(by the way, etl and sthar8 who were scum that game are generally regarded to have kickass scumgames.

another good read is pirate mollie's recent scumgame in FF7, you can find that in the theme games

a good place to go if you're looking for games that impressed ppl in general is the scummies nom thread: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60496
there's a category for "best scumteam")

[Antihero]

Don't pick up your role PM.

Kind of this.

no, kind of not even close to this.

[Antihero]

/sigh

do we have to have the talk about why not reading your role pm is cheating again?

[Antihero]

Why is it cheating

because you undermine the "informed minority" aspect that's fundamental to the game. scum who don't read their role pm can't possibly be playing to their win condition because they don't know what their win condition is. as a result, there's no way for town to scumhunt because there's no one really playing to a scum win condition.

[Antihero]

The main objective as scum is to survive no matter the cost as long as you end game you win. Town have to survive and hunt scum. It's not not playing to your win objective. There's probably another reason I'm realizing yet.

the town win condition and the scum win condition are NOT the same thing.

denying this is denying that it's even possible to scumhunt.

[Antihero]

"try to forget" isn't even in the same neighborhood as "never see it in the first place." that's not the part that's cheating. what's cheating is "don't look at who your partners are."

not looking at who your partners are IS similar to not even reading your role pm. scum isn't JUST about survivalism. part of being scum is KNOWING who your partners are and having to make calculations based on this knowledge.

[Antihero]

Even if your informed you can just ignore your team mates and pretend your town and hunt for invisible scum that works for me.

yes, and if you choose to employ this strategy, that gives town the fighting chance to pick up on this and catch you.

if you don't even know who your buddies are, you're not making ANY strategy so any hunt for associatives is going to be screwed since it's working from a bogus premise (that any reasonable person would accept).

[Antihero]

that's another strategy. and something else you can get caught out on if anyone can pick up on your true motivation.

...and it comes from actually knowing who your partner is...

[Antihero]

let's be real, you're not going to be able to just will yourself to "forget." "try to forget your partners with X" is close to "leave as few associatives with X as possible," which is what scum should be doing anyway.

that's not the same thing as not even knowing who X is.

[Antihero]

you're just saying stuff to be argumentative now

[Antihero]

You know who your partners are after the first night. Wouldn't that change in information be a scumhuntable presence?

no, that's a ridiculous expectation

It isn't about being unable to, it's about optimal strategy.

not reading your whole role pm is a "strategy" like getting into the mod's account and reading the role pm's is a "strategy"

i mean... yeah it may be effective, but what the hell's the point of playing the game anymore?

[Antihero]

how is that even remotely analogous-?

... you know what? forget it.

[Antihero]

kids, read your role pm's. ALL your role pm's. or else the thing in muffinman's avatar is going to bite your nuts off.

there, that's the moral of the story.