How common are town sweeps?
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How common are town sweeps?
Hi guys.
So, I recently was part of a mini that had a sweep by the town. No mislynches (though only because the D1 lynch was blocked!)
anyway, have been on both ends of SCUM sweeps before, but i have never seen a perfect town game iirc... And I got to thinking:
how common are they?
Town "perfect games"?
And what makes a perfect game?
No mislynches, obv.
Must one also avoid nightkills?
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I would imaging avoid nightkills as well as mislynches is pretty much impossible unless there's a very lucky doc(s).
I would consider a game a town 'perfect game' if there were no mislynches, or no pro-town deaths at night caused by town PRs (such as vig, PGO, etc).My Wiki Page|My Last.FM|My Steam
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Pick Your Power 1 was a clean sweep as far as I'm concerned.
No Mislynches at all. Was pretty cool.
As for the game you're talking about, yeah I'd consider it mostly a clean sweep, the Deer non lynch day 1 didn't matter and really was pretty easy from then on.
Also I don't imagine they're very common at all, I think usually town have to play well to get a clean sweep whereas scum wouldn't have to play as well, especially in Mini games.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Zachrulez
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That game wasFaraday wrote:Pick Your Power 1 was a clean sweep as far as I'm concerned.awesome.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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Troll agrees that these no be all that common. Only one springs to mind that Troll was in but that one was great because not only did scum get lynched both days but zwetschenwasser was the townie that got killed Night One. It was like better than perfect.
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I figure smaller games are easier in general.
I am sure there are a ton of perfect Lover's and Vengefuls, right?
I think in a 12p or larger, no nightkills would be pretty hard to accomplish.
I wonder if there are any perfect LARGE games? 4+ scum?"if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2- The Fonz
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I recall seeing zwets joining a Newbie game as an IC, and having a *headdesk* moment.Zorblag wrote:Troll agrees that these no be all that common. Only one springs to mind that Troll was in but that one was great because not only did scum get lynched both days but zwetschenwasser was the townie that got killed Night One. It was like better than perfect.
Newbie Game 852. F11 setup with no town power roles.
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Outside newbie games and various small open games, I don't think it is very likely we'll ever see a true town sweep. The closest I remember seeing was Mini 645, which saw a three player scumteam eliminated with just one town casualty, due to a successful town block and vig shot. Strangely, the one town death was a mislynch, so this probably wouldn't be regarded as a sweep. Even more strangely, Darox was two of the four deaths - one on each side.- Battousai
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I would say a town perfect game would be where the town did not make a mistake as a whole (ie no mislynches or NK's resulting from town powerroles). Statistically, the larger the ratio of town to scum, the harder it is. And compared to a scum sweep, the difficulty is much harder as the town has more members which gives them more chances to make a mistake.Last edited by Battousai on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:00 am, edited 1 time in total.- animorpherv1
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Town sweeps are unusual.
I was in one as town in a newbie, 1753. I was in one as a solo SK too (8v1, AITP)
I don't think I've been in any others, barring turbos which don't really count.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Which is one reason getting rid of the "best town" scummy is so abysmal given that the sheer unusualness of a town sweep makes it noteworthy and barring broken setups probably a result of overall stellar town play. /rantIn post 20, mhsmith0 wrote:Town sweeps are unusual.- Lil Uzi Vert
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haha silly mastinaIn post 22, mastina wrote:
Which is one reason getting rid of the "best town" scummy is so abysmal given that the sheer unusualness of a town sweep makes it noteworthy and barring broken setups probably a result of overall stellar town play. /rantIn post 20, mhsmith0 wrote:Town sweeps are unusual.
everyone knows town sweeps are always the result of townsided setups
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