This whole "no lynch" idiocy

[Internet Stranger]

Please state why.

[Sketchwick]

I didn't vote because I don't take part in biased polls. IS, go look at MTG mafia on GL, would you?

sketchwick

[SaberKitty]

i chose the second one. i think it was the wording that got me... but i think no-lynch is an option when you are certain that you will lynch a townie otherwise.
IS, if you are so opposed to it, why don't you mod a game. you can impose all your happy rules, like no "no-lynches"

-SK

[Neo]

I'm a good mafia player. Mostly I just like to watch people die!

[radwulf]

Vote: THE NO-LYNCH NAZIS WHO THREATEN TO RUIN THE GREAT GAME OF MAFIA

[quercitron]

radwulf the incorrigible

[jeep]

Heh, this is like the poll:
Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes No

No Lynch is RARELY a good option. However, there are times when it is clearly the best strategy.

-JEEP
who didn't vote in this poll

[Macros]

no votes, its pathetic, it draws out the game, and it buys the mafia more time to kill of the townies

[Antrax]

I play in whichever way helps my group the most. If the mod sets up a game awkwardly, a situation might arise in which lynching at random actually works against the town, because the town gains more out of the nights than the mafia does. If such a case arises, and I'm on the town's side, I will vote for a no lynch. If you have a problem with this, IS, too bad.
Antrax

[Mike Amok]

Yeah, it depends. Personally, I wouldn't have it as moderator, but if the mod of a game I'm in accepts it, I'm playing

their

game by

their

rules, and I'll always do what I think is best for my side.
And I really

am

a heartless coward, anyway.

[Samadhi]

So Antrax. You're saying that when you've voted "No kill" before it was because the mod set up a game awkwardly?

[Antrax]

No, beacuse there was no way in the world I'd get them to lynch someone ELSE. Merely surviving was hard enough =P
Antrax

[jesternl]

I'm still not even sure that "No lunch" is the best thing in MTG maf, and it sure goes against the spirit of the game. In general No lynch means the mafia get a kill extra, while the town gets information. In my opinion, kill is better then info.

[mole]

No lunch? That can't be good under any circumstances...

[Antrax]

No jester, the lynch is the mafia's "extra kill", because essentially two people are being shot at blind, with the benefit of maybe hitting a mafia. However, if you don't lynch, the mafia are in a race against the Karn machine, and even if they win (take out both docs), Karn just reveals all the innocents and tada, we've won.
Antrax

[jesternl]

Antrax, See my post in that game.. I think no lynch isn't a part of the game as such. It is making use of a loophole, or a flaw in the mods setup. comparable to (in a remote way, keep in mind that I use the example to illustrate my point) finding an old forgotten rule in chess that says you can skip a turn and using that.

[Antrax]

It's not much of a loophole if the moderator allows it. Had we all refused to vote in order to coerce the mod into it, that's one thing. In the said case, the moderator said "sure, that's fine with me, you can not lynch anyone if you feel it's in your best interest". However, several very presumptious people (cough DPW cough radwulf) feel they have the right to tell everyone else what to do even when the guy who sets the rules said it's fine, and it's HIS GAME.
Antrax

[eillid]

I have to agree with mole. No lunch is

never

good.

[Sketchwick]

Any tournament level MTG player knows:

no lunch

is mandatory....

sketchwick

[rOver]

In mini8 the town could have won by not lynching, or lynching one of his own

[mith]

There is actually an unavoidable flaw in the game if you *don't* allow no-lynch under any circumstances. See the end of mini 8 for an example of this flaw.

That said, in *most* cases, lynching is the best option, even if you are unlikely to lynch a Mafia. You gain information by doing so.

Situations where it is preferable for the town not to lynch:

X Mafia all in one family vs. X+2 Townies
X Mafia Family 1, X Mafia Family 2, 1 Townies.

I'm sure there are others, but that should be enough for you die-hard must-kill-someone-now fanatics.

[Dragon Slayer]

I think "no lynch" is ok but I refuse to vote because although i never do it i think it's accceptable. The choices on the voting ballet here says no lynch is bad and anyone who thinks otherwise is a coward. So what am i supposed to choose if i think no lynch is ok while not saying that i'm a bad mafia player?

[Antrax]

DS, this is IS' poll, so it's a little biased. There's another one lower on the page that mith made.
Antrax

[Elayne]

As a mod, will always allow no lynches in my games.

There are times when it is a good move for either sides.

I would just perfer if the town is NOT going to lynch, they vote no lynch so the game doesn't stall forever or until the deadline is reached.

I think the no lynch in verbose mafia made the game rather intereting. Same for Bladerunner.