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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:10 pm
by Ythan
UberNinja is this how you play Mafia?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:39 am
by UberNinja
In post 124, Yosarian2 wrote:The point is that if you think a vig is going to be right 100% of the time in the long run you don't actually understand how mafia works.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:19 pm
by PokerFace
NO!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:30 pm
by PokerFace
In post 116, Justin Timberlake wrote:if I'm a vig I'd self vig so I don't end up voting confirmed town in lylo

I miss pie :cry:

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:31 am
by RadiantCowbells
yes, they should.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:17 am
by Invisibility
how do i play vig

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:16 am
by Kublai Khan
No talking about ongoing games.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 am
by Not_Mafia
lol dumbest thread

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 am
by Not_Mafia
Everyone who voted yes is a cunt

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:41 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 0, DoomYoshi wrote:For playing against win condtion.
Except in extreme cases, so voting for yes doesn't mean it's automatic. It would still be up to the mod of course.

Some players say no: a player should never be killed for using their role.
So, what if a vig shoot an innocent child?

Vig is already the most anti-town town role (I consider it strictly worse than PGO). Some players say that vig should never shoot at all (I tend to agree in most cases).
Holy balls this is stupid.
In the hypothetical “OH WHAT IF VIG SHOOTS IC?”, why the fuck would it do that in the first place? If it does though, idk about modkilling but probably blacklist that player.
As for shooting n1, I think calling n1 shooting bad is like calling D1 lynching bad (at least for the reasoning I’ve seen for each, which is similar). And I think neither Vig nor PGO are “the most anyitoen town PRs”. PGO can be used well siometimes, and vig is swingy, not antitown.

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:48 pm
by Kublai Khan
In post 134, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 0, DoomYoshi wrote:For playing against win condtion.
Except in extreme cases, so voting for yes doesn't mean it's automatic. It would still be up to the mod of course.

Some players say no: a player should never be killed for using their role.
So, what if a vig shoot an innocent child?

Vig is already the most anti-town town role (I consider it strictly worse than PGO). Some players say that vig should never shoot at all (I tend to agree in most cases).
Holy balls this is stupid.
In the hypothetical “OH WHAT IF VIG SHOOTS IC?”, why the fuck would it do that in the first place? If it does though, idk about modkilling but probably blacklist that player.
As for shooting n1, I think calling n1 shooting bad is like calling D1 lynching bad (at least for the reasoning I’ve seen for each, which is similar). And I think neither Vig nor PGO are “the most anyitoen town PRs”. PGO can be used well siometimes, and vig is swingy, not antitown.
The OP meant N0. Like, a vig taking a shot before the game starts is a generally bad idea.

Necros are dumb.

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:34 pm
by Gamma Emerald
No in a later post OP explains they really meant N1, not N0

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:34 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 135, Kublai Khan wrote:The OP meant N0.
I don't think this was ever estalished

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:46 pm
by Gamma Emerald
And tbh I had a game where I hipfire OMGUS day vigged a powerful scum role D1
So I think there are highs and lows to vig play, the best thing to do is just do what you think is wisest
And even if you do screw up you can do what I did in a different game and kill a role that outs a scum fakeclaim

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:44 am
by BNL
I think it was what the OP meant, it was made in 2008 and back then Night starts were more common

And dayvigging at the start of Day 1 is equivalent to quickhammering

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:52 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 36, DoomYoshi wrote:FTR, I do mean N1, not N0, but N0 is another interesting choice.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:09 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 139, BNL wrote:I think it was what the OP meant, it was made in 2008 and back then Night starts were more common

And dayvigging at the start of Day 1 is equivalent to quickhammering
That’s not what I said I did but w/e

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:35 am
by Creature
Lynching D1 should be against the rules

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:41 am
by Ramcius
In post 142, Creature wrote:Lynching D1 should be against the rules
Indeed, D1 lynch is bad for town

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:00 am
by Invisibility
ban lynching and have the scum NK decided by die roll

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:14 pm
by ManateeDude
In post 144, Invisibility wrote:ban lynching and have the scum NK decided by die roll
:WeSmart:

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:16 am
by vonflare
One time my favourite role in my game got dayvigged day 1

I made sure to make all day vigs "night 2+ dayvig" or something similar from then on

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:20 pm
by 0verki11
Honestly if you get shot as town N1 there are 2 reasons
1. you deserved it
2. The vigi doesnt know to work with town

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:30 am
by VeridianCleric
The mod should never be modkilling unless the player breaks some serious rules, and with the ability to force out and replace players even than it's minimal for a need for it.

If you think a vig should be mod killed for using it's ability change it to a suicider, you get one shot, you use it you die too, if you get RB you still died as you failed to hit your target, Gives your desired Kill and sacrifice.

That's how I would do it while avoiding the need to modkill and leaving the choice up to the player.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:03 am
by James Brafin
Gonna say:
Vig shooting n1 is fine
But if you don’t like it make him a novice.
Kthxbye