Lying about external circumstances

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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:18 am

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Darox wrote:Despite being a procrastinator of Olympic standard, I wouldn't ever lie and say I'm having personal issues just to get out posting.
Not least because I really do get quite ill with unusual frequency, and it's irritating to be called out on it. Especially when I really am scum. I should probably add a meta note to my wiki, or something.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:31 am

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I wouldn't lie and say I'm having personal issues just to get out of posting.

However, if I did have personal issues, I might consider whether I want to get out of posting in deciding whether I should bring them up.

I'd say more but I'm really busy at work right now...
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:26 am

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Darox wrote:
SensFan wrote:I would have said that I don't lie because I'm Christian, but my dad, mom, brother, sister, dog, cat, and mouse all died yesterday.
Freak Monopoly accident?
Nah. They were planning a surprise scumday party for me. I had asked them what they were up to that day, and they had said nothing. So when I found out they had lied to me, I knew I had to kill them all in God's name.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:58 am

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SensFan wrote:
Darox wrote:
SensFan wrote:I would have said that I don't lie because I'm Christian, but my dad, mom, brother, sister, dog, cat, and mouse all died yesterday.
Freak Monopoly accident?
Nah. They were planning a surprise scumday party for me. I had asked them what they were up to that day, and they had said nothing. So when I found out they had lied to me, I knew I had to kill them all in God's name.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:00 pm

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Neighbours? I used to have some of those. It's funny how many people lie, though...
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:25 pm

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Neighbours? I used to have some of those. It's funny how many people lie, though...
Make sure they are neighbours and not masons. You wouldn't want to kill those guys.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:57 pm

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That depends. Did the masons in question lie?
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:13 pm

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I'm surprised about the dog, I assume at least it wasn't sleeping. You're supposed to
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:18 pm

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Vi wrote:
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:, I will not make up a problem just to get off the hook or get sympathy.
Agreed. Making up an untrue RL reason to get off of deserved criticism is beyond the pale, and fuck the quitters' list, anyone found to have done so should be suspended.
I endorse this draconian policy and encourage others to do the same.
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Really?

I mean, lying and saying your grandmother died or you have cancer or something is in incredibly poor taste, but short of that, you certanly are allowed to lie in a mafia game. You really think someone should be banned if they say "Sorry, I've been busy" and they haven't really been busy?
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:19 am

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"sorry i've been busy" means one of three things:

a. i've been busy, regardless of alignment
b. i've been lurking town because i've totally lost interest in this game
c. i've been lurking scum because you're all letting me get away with it

its also a much less dastardly lie (mostly because its so vague) than saying sorry i was in the hospital or sorry my dog got hit by a car, or even sorry i didn't have any internet access
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:26 am

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I think it'd be unethical to say it if you mean b or c.

Losing interest in a game isn't unusual. If that happens to me I would either just say it frankly and/or promise a "real" post later.
If you're lurking, then lying about it lets you get away with it for reasons no one should have to even begin suspecting.

It's unreasonable lie and to bring RL circumstances into a game for your own advantage. There's no "RL Cop" anyone can use to find out if you're lying or not. When someone says something about RL we should be able to trust that they are saying the truth.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:50 am

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It might allow for nice gambits.

If A has a Guilty on B...

B - Sorry, my grandma died last week.
A - Hey cool, you're from XXX, what part?
B - Oh, YYY
A - Ha! I know you IRL, and you're lying!
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:34 am

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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:10 am

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destructor wrote:I think it'd be unethical to say it if you mean b or c.

Losing interest in a game isn't unusual. If that happens to me I would either just say it frankly and/or promise a "real" post later.
If you're lurking, then lying about it lets you get away with it for reasons no one should have to even begin suspecting.

It's unreasonable lie and to bring RL circumstances into a game for your own advantage. There's no "RL Cop" anyone can use to find out if you're lying or not. When someone says something about RL we should be able to trust that they are saying the truth.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:53 am

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The point is, you are allowed to lie in a mafia game. Of couse you are. Nothing someone says in a mafia game should be taken at face value.

Now, on the other hand, lying in the V/LA thread to get an advantage in a mafia game would be unethical, since the V/LA thread is outside of the mafia game itself.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:51 am

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Define 'busy.'

Busy for me could mean anything that meant you didn't get the chance to check the thread.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:31 am

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I think it’s dumb, just like fake guilties because you will lose credibility in future games but lying about anything that is easily verifiable is the stupidest out of all lies.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:18 am

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This is too much necromancy
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:07 am

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Holy necro Batman!
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:24 am

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It'll be a rule in any game I mod to not lie about IRL. I'm going through enough IRL and I don't want people to try and read that.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:57 am

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This thread was made over 5000 days ago

That's pretty nutty
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:05 am

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In post 95, Ankamius wrote:This thread was made over 5000 days ago

That's pretty nutty
I was bored. *shrug*
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