Mafia As A Social Game: An Argument About Charisma

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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:26 pm

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In post 35, Amrun wrote:"Well, I really think I am right, but there's always the possibility that I'm wrong" completely counterintuitive,
"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd" (good Voltaire quote)

Its a matter of finding the right level of how sure you need to be about things. In the grand scheme, the ones who tend to have no conviction or are always "100% sure" tend to get ignored more than those who take more of a middle ground.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:15 pm

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In post 0, mastin2 wrote: -
Talk to the players, not at them.

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Keep calm and rational.

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Display confidence, not arrogance; display humbleness, not doubt.

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Don't antagonize players!

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The town is made up of a majority.

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Address other players.

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Find a common ground.

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Admit that you could be wrong.

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Keep an open mind.

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Tell the truth!

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Keep things clear.

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Don't lose focus, don't over-focus.
It's funny just how many of these things i don't do.

I'd argue myself that a lot of these aren't taken into account.

I'm generally talking AT players, not keeping calm at all, antagonizing people, not addressing other players, not keeping that open a mind as town or scum (tunneling), i rarely act like i am wrong, i don't tell the truth all the time as scum.

The list goes on :P

I don't think many of these count as to who gets lynched.

I mean yeah, we have lynch all liars, that doesn't mean it gets used that often.

Confidence is one of the bigger ones in my mind, that followed by what i'd mostly call "sheepability" the ability you have to make people sheep you, even when the reasoning is stupid.

If you can sell ice to an Eskimo, you can win mafia.

It's about believability not much else.

Drag people onto your side of thinking, and you can generally keep yourself from being lynched.

I'd also argue that it's not the least charismatic that gets lynched.

Sometimes it is scummy, sometimes it's other things, but it's not all about charisma.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:49 am

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In post 50, LlamaFluff wrote:
In post 35, Amrun wrote:"Well, I really think I am right, but there's always the possibility that I'm wrong" completely counterintuitive,
"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd" (good Voltaire quote)

Its a matter of finding the right level of how sure you need to be about things. In the grand scheme, the ones who tend to have no conviction or are always "100% sure" tend to get ignored more than those who take more of a middle ground.
Yes, but I am never trying to present myself as 100% sure (or almost never). That's the issue. I have a normal level of sureness in things, but somehow my wording isn't quite right and my meanings get muddled occasionally. I don't know what, because I certainly don't state things in absolutes.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 7:53 am

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This is a good thread. Bumping so I can see it easier next time and remember it. Mastina I enjoy your guides.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:02 pm

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Yeah, I agree. I keep seeing the same players over and over getting mislynched.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:08 am

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WTF more necro...
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