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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:55 pm
by wgeurts

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:03 am
by kanyeknowsbest
thats not the adjective i would use

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:04 am
by kanyeknowsbest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:04 am
by kanyeknowsbest
what do u have against my friend cherry dog

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:04 am
by kanyeknowsbest
youre fucked up vendetta

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:23 pm
by mastina
List of a few things I'd like articles on, even if they are short stubs:
  • Player:
    A person who is playing (rather than moderating) in a Mafia Game.
    (I mean I know it might sound ridiculous but I think it has use. We have an article on Game Moderator; why not one on a Player?)
  • Logic:
    A process of objective reasoning.
    (I have numerous reasons for wanting something like this. We have a category for Logical Fallacies, which is basically "flawed logic", but we don't have an article on what Logic actually
    is
    .)
  • Gut:
    Something based off of instinct rather than hard fact.
    (I mean this isn't the definition *I* would use for Gut, but it's the definition most people hold for Gut. We lack an article on it currently and it is absolutely shameful that the mafiascum wiki lacks an article on one of THE most fundamental things spanning across every site which plays mafia.)
  • Reads:
    A player's given perspective on other players.
  • Readslist:
    A form of a player revealing their reads on other players.
  • Scumread:
    A player holding the opinion of someone being scum.
  • Townread:
    A player holding the opinion of a player being town.
  • Null:
    An action or read which is neither town nor scum.
    (We don't have an article on ANY of these?!? Why the fuck not?)
  • Wallposter:
    A player who frequently or entirely posts in Walls.
  • Spamposter:
    A player who frequently or entirely posts many shorter posts, the opposite of wallposting.
  • Objective/Objectivity:
    Without bias of opinion; using nothing but undeniable facts/truth.
  • Subjective/Subjectivity:
    Using personal bias/opinion; interpretation using assumptions that are not undeniable.
  • Not Alignment Indicative:
    AKA, NAI. Something which holds no bearing to alignment.
    (AKA, the people who are too new to know that's what null means using different slang. :P)
I mean, most of these definitions are pretty crappy, but they'd be better than literally nothing, which is what we have on ALL of the above right now.

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:42 pm
by mastina
For that matter,
  • We could use alternative terminology here. "Narrator" and "Host", among others, are common alternative terms for Game Moderator used on other sites, and I feel listing them as alternative names somewhere on the page itself (maybe they exist as redirects, but I think we can do better than that) would be useful.
  • It could probably be made clearer that this page is for the faction simply by changing the title (if that's viable) to "Mafia (faction)".
    Furthermore
    , we have a page called scum, which could be linked on there but currently is not. Additionally, and this is actually my main gripe: "Mafiate" is a commonly used term, even more so than "Mafioso", yet it is not listed as a term on the page.
  • We have a page for "scumtell" and "towntell", but no generic page for just "
    tell
    ", which I think would be useful.

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:48 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 405, mastina wrote:[*]
Readslist:
A form of a player revealing their reads on other players.
I already did this and got shit on for doing it:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... erspective

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:50 pm
by Postie
In post 407, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 405, mastina wrote:[*]
Readslist:
A form of a player revealing their reads on other players.
I already did this and got shit on for doing it:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... erspective
I think the idea is to have a page that just explains what a readlist is, rather than a guide on how to make one.

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:52 pm
by mastina
In post 408, Postie wrote:
In post 405, mastina wrote:
Readslist:
A form of a player revealing their reads on other players.
I think the idea is to have a page that just explains what a readlist is, rather than a guide on how to make one.
Yeah, that is what I meant. Readslist as a concept (which is common and used on almost every site which plays mafia), not readlist as a specific theory (which is opinionated).

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:58 am
by LicketyQuickety
As long as we are making requests for articles, I think it would be good to have an advanced article on Timing per Content. So much can be said based on when it is said and what is said. Out of the few players I know, players like Transcend and Firebringer seem to be good at this. Their minimalist approach lends it self to good timing sometimes even more that what is even said. I'm sure there are plenty of people who could do this article.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:00 am
by wgeurts
First tackling navigation and categorisation but content​ is definitely on the list

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:27 am
by Davsto
In post 405, mastina wrote:(We don't have an article on ANY of these?!? Why the fuck not?)
Because it takes literally a sentence to explain and having twenty sentence-long articles which are hardly difficult to figure out anyway (I mean townread, seriously?) is a horrific waste of space.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:30 am
by Davsto
If you really think it's such a big deal, then maybe there should be a "definitions" or "slang" page which has all that kind of stuff on and that you are redirected to when you search any of those terms

But "full" articles (I say "full" because most of them would either be single sentences or just painfully repetitious) for the vast majority of them would be a total waste, especially when some (player, spamposter, townread) are fairly self-explanatory, and others (objectivity, logic) are literally just real, dictionary words which are hardly different in Mafia than in any other situation.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:35 am
by wgeurts
We have a glossary page actually

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:37 am
by Psyche
all but the modding articles on the mafiawiki are kind of bad

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:39 am
by Psyche
ok that might be a bit too strong

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:47 am
by Davsto
In post 414, wgeurts wrote:We have a glossary page actually
It's a bunch of links to stubs

I think that sentence is self-explanatory of how I feel about it

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:50 am
by wgeurts
In post 415, Psyche wrote:all but the modding articles on the mafiawiki are kind of bad
Many of the articles posted in MD likely will be added to the wiki in the future, and there's talk of an article competition much like the setup design contest in the future.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:50 am
by wgeurts
Yeah, content will be tackled once the mess of organisation is sorted

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:29 am
by Cheery Dog
I have also just noticed this and want to lodge a complaint.

Or request edit access again so i can turn it into something resembling a normal page again.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:04 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
dont back down cherrydog

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:35 pm
by wgeurts
Is your page protected?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:32 am
by Cheery Dog
It received admin only level protection after it was reversed previously.

I'd rather it just work how it's supposed to again, but i assume it's broken since we upgraded the wiki.

If i actually had content for the page right now i would just take the redirect off the user: cheery dog one

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:33 am
by Vaxkiller
I tried following your instructions, but itsays I dont have a page and do not have permission to create one?

I'm just looking for a place to dump links to my games so ppl can meta me.