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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:09 pm

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How do you do it?

Issues I've identified:
Notes ordered by player fail to record events in context.
Notes ordered by time don't highlight how the views of an individual change.
Spreadsheets, people on one axis and time on the other, quickly become unwieldy and hard to maintain.

It appears that not much beats checking ISOs and rereading, but there should be a better way.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:36 pm

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In post 0, TheDudeAbides wrote:How do you do it?

Issues I've identified:
Notes ordered by player fail to record events in context.
Notes ordered by time don't highlight how the views of an individual change.
Spreadsheets, people on one axis and time on the other, quickly become unwieldy and hard to maintain.

It appears that not much beats checking ISOs and rereading, but there should be a better way.

When I keep notes in game I create a simple word doc. Each player in the game gets their own individual page. I type notes on posts, what the post was in reference to, what my thoughts were on each post.

Then in addition to that I'll keep a separate page on how players interact and whom I haven't interacted with enough. I've only done this twice though it was very useful albeit I've stopped taking the game that seriously. Separately I have a "musings" page on my wiki that I will sometimes reference to remind myself of things that happen in games overall.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:16 pm

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Reply in thread to anything that needs noted.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:44 pm

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In post 2, Cheery Dog wrote:Reply in thread to anything that needs noted.


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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:22 am

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Don't keep notes because only scum need to be meticulous in order to pretend to be town.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:02 am

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In post 2, Cheery Dog wrote:Reply in thread to anything that needs noted.

This. If you're town, your notes should literally just be your ISO.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:52 am

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Bullshit. Nobody writes these in thread...

note to self-remember to lay a trap on Tuesday and judge reactions.
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Based on the setup if I get to L-1 fake claim gunsmith or nurse.

Furthermore highly detailed VCA is much easier with a spreadsheet.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:17 am

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In post 6, reinoe wrote:Bullshit. Nobody writes these in thread...

note to self-remember to lay a trap on Tuesday and judge reactions.
Or
Based on the setup if I get to L-1 fake claim gunsmith or nurse.

Furthermore highly detailed VCA is much easier with a spreadsheet.

These are just things you should do or know instead of planning it out.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:03 pm

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In post 6, reinoe wrote:Bullshit. Nobody writes these in thread...

note to self-remember to lay a trap on Tuesday and judge reactions.
Or
Based on the setup if I get to L-1 fake claim gunsmith or nurse.

Furthermore highly detailed VCA is much easier with a spreadsheet.

Why wait to lay your trap or claim?

I have done notes to self. (mostly along the lines of Venrob was in this slot - do not lose your scum read because the replacement is able to actually act town)
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:06 pm

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In post 6, reinoe wrote:Bullshit. Nobody writes these in thread...

note to self-remember to lay a trap on Tuesday and judge reactions.
Or
Based on the setup if I get to L-1 fake claim gunsmith or nurse.

I don't see why not.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:03 pm

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In post 6, reinoe wrote:Bullshit. Nobody writes these in thread...

note to self-remember to lay a trap on Tuesday and judge reactions.
Or
Based on the setup if I get to L-1 fake claim gunsmith or nurse.

Furthermore highly detailed VCA is much easier with a spreadsheet.


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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:02 am

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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:04 pm

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I keep all my notes in notepad. It takes up space but I organize it and i keep context by putting the post numbers of everything next to what I'm talking about. The way I play I build up cases against/for everyone in the game and write down possible connections as I go.

I definitely dont put most of it in the thread when I think of it and the only things that ever make it to the thread are summaries when I give reads lists or when I'm really confident about a mafia read I will say so and why ofc.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:24 pm

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In post 12, Junpei wrote:I keep all my notes in notepad. It takes up space but I organize it and i keep context by putting the post numbers of everything next to what I'm talking about. The way I play I build up cases against/for everyone in the game and write down possible connections as I go.

I definitely dont put most of it in the thread when I think of it and the only things that ever make it to the thread are summaries when I give reads lists or when I'm really confident about a mafia read I will say so and why ofc.


^I do this too. I feel like it leads to me giving more info instead of analysis sometimes though.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:08 pm

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Word is only for creating documents that other people will see.
Notepad is only for writing down things you're prepared to forget.
OneNote is the best windows application for this by far.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:24 am

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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:47 pm

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I used to keep all my notes in the scum QT, until mods stopped using QTs...now I have nowhere to keep them. :(
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:33 pm

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In post 14, Psyche wrote:Word is only for creating documents that other people will see.
Notepad is only for writing down things you're prepared to forget.
OneNote is the best windows application for this by far.

obv this is true but i started with notepad a long time ago and its just what i use
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:03 pm

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:36 am

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I (when I actually bother taking notes) usually use notes in Word sorted by player. I usually note post numbers in any given comment and also some context if necessary

Another benefit of notes is noting little things too small to mention but still maybe scummy if there's a pattern.

I tend to take notes mostly when reading a game I just replace into or on the first day or two of a game.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:31 pm

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In post 2, Cheery Dog wrote:Reply in thread to anything that needs noted.



sometimes i even reply to things i don't care about
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:35 pm

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Really honestly, I usually just post whatever's in my brain at the time it's in my brain


though i've been known to keep notes in scum QTs back in the day



ahhh Catch-22, aka "The Scum QT of misery and loathing" where I rambled on and on about my personal life and my horrible ex-wife while openly lamenting the idea that I should take pictures of my junk and post them in thread
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:42 pm

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In post 20, kuribo wrote:
In post 2, Cheery Dog wrote:Reply in thread to anything that needs noted.



sometimes i even reply to things i don't care about

i see what you did there
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