In post 42, Riddleton wrote:Maybe I'm just old skool, but I can't be the only person who hates the web 2.0 bling crap, right?
In post 38, quadz08 wrote:Reck, do you have suggestions on what else to broadcast on the twitter account? All the skittles have access, but I tend to make most of the posts since I'm the most active twitter-person among the mod team.
These priorities seem reversed.In post 22, wgeurts wrote:Once resorting and updating info like "Games Played" is out the way I can hunt for people to make articles on meta now, update and discuss role balance and all that stuff.
I agree that would be interesting, but unless it looks exceptionally shiny I don't think that's going to get new people in the door. The people who care about that sort of thing are generally well-established (and create vanity pages on the wiki) and aren't likely to quit because it'sIn post 55, xRECKONERx wrote:EpicMafia is automated to run quick chat based games. I'm talking automation that tracks games you're in, let's the mod designate what factions won, tracks statistics, provides a summary of what alignments or roles you draw most often, success rates as various alignments or roles, etc
I'd snark back, but admittedly what I said was not just gauche but probably undervalues the "first impression" factor as well. Sorry.and I'm sorry if the style conversation bores you, but we are a website and this discussion is about how to become more appealing to users.
Less "dismissing" and more "prioritizing". Please don't get me wrong, most if not all of the things presented here would add value, but for answering how to attract and retain newbies, they're not equally effective.chamber wrote:I don't think dismissing any idea's yet is a good idea. I do think we may want to sub-segment discussion though. Let wiki people talk about wiki priorities and design people talk about site design.
In post 57, Vi wrote:I agree that would be interesting, but unless it looks exceptionally shiny I don't think that's going to get new people in the door. The people who care about that sort of thing are generally well-established (and create vanity pages on the wiki) and aren't likely to quit because it's not there. Like, if you had a 100% win rate or only ever drew Town once that would be something really cool that you could show your friends, but statistically speaking most people aren't going to get that.
I think you are super wrong about who cares about their success rates. If you've played less games, doesn't it make sense that you care more about those individual games? It's not a 100% win-rate that matters, it's linking and sharing experiences even if you lost. Creating a wiki-stat page and manually updating it after every game is too much effort for a scorecard, if they were made automatically more people would know about and use them. (I mean, we don't even have a 'these people are currently playing in a mafia game RIGHT NOW' board to show just how many people are playing at a given time.)In post 57, Vi wrote:I agree that would be interesting, but unless it looks exceptionally shiny I don't think that's going to get new people in the door. The people who care about that sort of thing are generally well-established (and create vanity pages on the wiki) and aren't likely to quit because it'sIn post 55, xRECKONERx wrote:EpicMafia is automated to run quick chat based games. I'm talking automation that tracks games you're in, let's the mod designate what factions won, tracks statistics, provides a summary of what alignments or roles you draw most often, success rates as various alignments or roles, etcnotthere. Like, if you had a 100% win rate or only ever drew Town once that would be something really cool that you could show your friends, but statistically speaking most people aren't going to get that.
In post 66, BBmolla wrote:Rising from the dead.
Is there any way to code chat mafia games in the chat? Like make a simple chat bot?
Do we want mafiascum to be the go to for all mafia games? Chat, webcam, etc?
Epicmafia is trash, there is currently no where to play chat mafia games with any reasonable balance. I think MS filling that void could bring in a lot of users.
In it's current form, the chat isn't really a good way for mafia games imo.
I agree with Reck about tracking stats, if there was any possible way we could get that going, I know that'd attract a lot of attention.
Automated modding may also want to be a way we start heading towards. Insert the roles in the game, insert the player names, role pms automatically go out, and stats start to be tracked.
I have no idea what I'm talking about with that though.
In post 70, Shadoweh wrote:I personally find the modding requirements here insulting. I've been playing for years and run multiple successful games offsite. If I wanted to run a game here it would need to be either sanitized of all fun and run by a committee orpicked by Llamafluffa small selection of Open setups. Also it would take.. how many months to actually be run, and be required to be how many months long? I'm not interested enough in earning my Mafia Mod (TM) stripes to do that.
It's funny that the Micro Queue is such an innovation here to be honest, because it plays out the way mafia is played everywhere else. Quick, small, not needing as much time investment. I look at joining a non-Micro game right now and wow, it would cut into my Christmas holiday. Who has time for that for a forum-game?
I don't think livestreaming would help, because it would be false advertising. Here's some face to face mafia! Wasn't that a great party game? Now go sign up and in a week you can post once a day for three months! Mafiascum the forum is never going to be a F2F mafia site.
I think you are super wrong about who cares about their success rates. If you've played less games, doesn't it make sense that you care more about those individual games? It's not a 100% win-rate that matters, it's linking and sharing experiences even if you lost. Creating a wiki-stat page and manually updating it after every game is too much effort for a scorecard, if they were made automatically more people would know about and use them. (I mean, we don't even have a 'these people are currently playing in a mafia game RIGHT NOW' board to show just how many people are playing at a given time.)In post 57, Vi wrote:I agree that would be interesting, but unless it looks exceptionally shiny I don't think that's going to get new people in the door. The people who care about that sort of thing are generally well-established (and create vanity pages on the wiki) and aren't likely to quit because it'sIn post 55, xRECKONERx wrote:EpicMafia is automated to run quick chat based games. I'm talking automation that tracks games you're in, let's the mod designate what factions won, tracks statistics, provides a summary of what alignments or roles you draw most often, success rates as various alignments or roles, etcnotthere. Like, if you had a 100% win rate or only ever drew Town once that would be something really cool that you could show your friends, but statistically speaking most people aren't going to get that.
