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How much Mafia can you handle?

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:10 pm

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Ive been wondering lately about the limits of how many different mafia games someone can be in. I know theres no official limit, but surely, even for the best players, theres a limit to how many different games they can play, especially considering that the players of each game may overlap, possibly causing confusion/slips.
So, I have a few questions:

1: How many games are you currently playing?
2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
4: How many games can you yourself handle?
5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?

1: Im currently playing 2 games, both of which are mini themes.
2: I have a large theme and a mini theme ive /inned for, so 4.
3: Probably 5. IMO, thats around the amount where there will be overlapping players in most of your games.
4: Again, 5.
5: At one point, I was in a Newbie, a mini normal, 2 mini themed, and a 16 player game on another site, so 5.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:07 am

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:31 am

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:1: How many games are you currently playing?

Three.

2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?

Three.

3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?

2, maybe 3 depending on how much free time one has.

4: How many games can you yourself handle?

The following combinations of game sizes would be the absolute limit:

1) 1 large, 1 anything not large
2) 1 mini, 1 anything not large
3) 3 micros
4) 1 large, 1 mini, 1 micro
5) 1 large, 2 micros

I am currently doing #4. The above is as far as I can personally stretch myself and still be involved. I would much prefer no more than 2 games at a time, and if it's a large, then just the large and nothing else (but could probably squeeze in a micro if the large is not overly demanding).

The reason for this is something I wish more players would incorporate into the way they play on this site. Each game is a commitment to your team. It doesn't matter if you are town or mafia, because your team needs your brain power and skill to win. If you are stretched so thin across multiple games, you are doing each of those games, and all of your team mates in each of them, a huge disservice. That slot could have gone to someone who was willing to put in the appropriate amount of attention. Effort has nothing to do with it. As long as you are participating, that's good enough.

5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?

Nine or ten. I was in 3 or 4 micros, 3 newbies, 2 minis, and 1 large. It was over summer before last. I was trying something out and didn't really know my limit at the time. I also wanted to help people out with replacements and there were a lot of good games being modded. I found my limit pretty quickly. It was too much and all of my games suffered. My sanity suffered as well, to be honest.

I think each person needs to figure out their own individual limit. Some people are better when they have a lot to do, and enjoy being busy with games. Others just don't have the energy for it (like me). It really depends on how you like to play, what you think is an appropriate level of activity to commit, and what your own IRL schedule will allow you to do to meet those limits.

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As an addition to this, and because I play fewer games at a time than I used to, I'm much pickier with what games that I do choose to play.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:48 am

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:
1: How many games are you currently playing?


Two. This is the smallest number of games I've been in concurrently in over 2 years

2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?


Two. It's a little late, and I probably won't need it by the time it finally happens, but I've been winding down my games for months with the intent to take a break.

3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?


Define normal player? I think the "can handle" algorithm has so many variables that it will always be a moving target for most players.

4: How many games can you yourself handle?


Usually, I can handle about 8 games comfortably. I sometimes get up as high as 12 when pre-ins come due, and get draconian with myself about more sign-ups until I'm down to 6 or so.

5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?


I hit 12 a few times. That gets crazy.

I agree with ETL about games being commitments to teams. This summer/fall I was intentionally using mafia as a distraction/break from real-life. I wasn't honest with myself about the quality of my play during part of that time, and I feel like I did disservices to some of my teams. Which is why I'm attempting to clear the decks and do a reset.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:16 pm

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:Ive been wondering lately about the limits of how many different mafia games someone can be in. I know theres no official limit, but surely, even for the best players, theres a limit to how many different games they can play, especially considering that the players of each game may overlap, possibly causing confusion/slips.
So, I have a few questions:

1: How many games are you currently playing?
2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
4: How many games can you yourself handle?
5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?


1. Three; two onsite; one offsite.
2. Same number.
3. Depends on the person honestly, but say 3-4.
4. Depends on the size. I can handle one large, two minis, one open and two newbies pretty easily. But normally 7-8 is my limit.
5. Hm, not really sure, but maybe 10-13??
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:59 pm

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You people are crazy.

In post 0, eyestott wrote:1: How many games are you currently playing?
2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
4: How many games can you yourself handle?
5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?


1. zero
2. zero
3. 13 players at day 1 will generate 13*12*4 = 624 posts or 25 pages on minimum over the course of 2 weeks. That means a player needs to read more than 1.8 pages per real day per game to keep up. After that it depends on how much time a "normal" person is willing to put into playing mafia.
4. two at max
5. four
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:01 pm

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1. Three
2. Three
3. 2-6 games
4. 2-4 games
5. Seven
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:41 am

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1. Two
2. Three
3. Greatly depends on the player, their free time, and the amount of effort they are willing to spend in mafia games. I'll say 3-4.
4. I can handle eight, but I usually try to keep it at six-seven max.
5. Ten or something
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:18 am

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:

1: How many games are you currently playing?
1

2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
2

3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
depends on the player

4: How many games can you yourself handle?
I don't even know but it is less than five and more than 2

5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?
I dunno, like 7 or something

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:19 am

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Any more than 5 mini normal games would be beyond my ability to keep straight
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:11 pm

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I can only be actively involved in three games at a time, when I play more there's always one or two that I'm completely disconnected from at any given time.

Heavily depends on the effort one puts into games
When I'd just want to coast by as some people do, I could play 8.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:10 pm

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:1: How many games are you currently playing?
2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
4: How many games can you yourself handle?
5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?


1: One.
2: One.
3: Three Minis and a Large.
4: It used to be about four, with a Large Theme and maybe two or three mini themes. For the last year or year and a half, I've been sticking to MAYBE two games at a time. Sometimes three if one is part of the Serene hydra. Then after I'm done with the games I'm in, I announce my retirement and stop playing for three months or so.
5: Christ, I don't know, probably four or five. I found it way too hard to yell at that many people.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:24 am

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I figure most people can handle 3-4 minis and a large at most.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:20 am

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In post 12, tn5421 wrote:I figure most people can handle 3-4 minis and a large at most.

That's quite a lot for me. I like to be really involved and a large can take it out of me.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:53 pm

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1:2, 3, 2, 3, 0, 3, 2, 1, 1 Average: Just under 2
2:4, 3, 2, 3, 0, 3, 3, 2, 1 Average: 2 and a third
3:5, 2, ?, 3, ?, 4, 3, ?, 4 Average: 3
4:5, 3, 8, 7, 2, 3, 8, 3, 2 Average: 4 and a half
5:5, 9, 12, 11, 4, 7, 10, 10, 4 Average: 8



While this sample space of 9 people doesnt accurately reflect MS as a whole, it is sort of interesting to see just how big the difference is between average current games and average maximum amount. None of us are in more than 3 games, but all of us have been in at least 4 games at one time. All of the guesses for how many games most scummers can handle are actually pretty close.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:49 pm

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In post 1, Kublai Khan wrote:This gave me flashbacks of zwetschenwasser.

Remember when zwet's meta was considered unusual and offensive?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:35 am

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:Ive been wondering lately about the limits of how many different mafia games someone can be in. I know theres no official limit, but surely, even for the best players, theres a limit to how many different games they can play, especially considering that the players of each game may overlap, possibly causing confusion/slips.
So, I have a few questions:

1: How many games are you currently playing?
2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
4: How many games can you yourself handle?
5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?

1-Currently 3 I guess?
2- 4
3- prob around 3
4- around 2-6 depending on time if I dont want to overload myself
5- +15 at one time. I did fine but i basically over burned myself. summer vacation at that time when i only had time for mafia scum. used to signup for anew game as long as there is no game I dont ahve the last post in. Never again...
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:17 am

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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:37 am

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In post 0, eyestott wrote:
1: How many games are you currently playing?

Four.

In post 0, eyestott wrote:2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?

Seven.

In post 0, eyestott wrote:3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?

I guess it depends on the player. How much effort they put into a game and their method of playing as well.

For me, it pretty much depends on alignment. As town, I'm an avid note-taker and so I don't particularly like being town in more than two games at once because it takes up a lot of time. As scum, I think I could quite easily cope with four games, I have had three at one point and that was no problem.

In post 0, eyestott wrote:4: How many games can you yourself handle?

Again, depends on alignment. I would say probably four, five is the absolute max. I realised I answered 'seven' if all the games I have signed up for start now. Two of those are opens so I don't expect them to start for a while, by which time, I should have one, maybe two, games finished at that point.

In post 0, eyestott wrote:5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?.

Five, I think. Two newbies, two micros and a mini-normal.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:19 pm

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3
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7
8
12

12 was fucking crazy - I tried it once and I would never even contemplate it again.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:52 am

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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:09 am

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In post 19, T S O wrote:3
5
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12

12 was fucking crazy - I tried it once and I would never even contemplate it again.

i know the feels.... XD
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:09 am

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Although, for me, the higher my games go, the more my play suffers. It's not so much "I don't have time for this, too many games" but a weird kind of apathy where you just can't get involved in certain games out of the 10-12 and begin to irrationally hate them.

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:11 am

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In post 11, kuribo wrote:
In post 0, eyestott wrote:1: How many games are you currently playing?
2: If all of the games you have signed up for start now, how many games will you be in?
3: How many games do you think a normal player can handle ( this obviously depends on the size, so assume each game is arounf 13 players)?
4: How many games can you yourself handle?
5: Whats the largest amount of games you have been in?


1: One.
2: One.
3: Three Minis and a Large.
4: It used to be about four, with a Large Theme and maybe two or three mini themes. For the last year or year and a half, I've been sticking to MAYBE two games at a time. Sometimes three if one is part of the Serene hydra. Then after I'm done with the games I'm in, I announce my retirement and stop playing for three months or so.
5: Christ, I don't know, probably four or five. I found it way too hard to yell at that many people.


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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:36 pm

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In post 22, T S O wrote:Although, for me, the higher my games go, the more my play suffers. It's not so much "I don't have time for this, too many games" but a weird kind of apathy where you just can't get involved in certain games out of the 10-12 and begin to irrationally hate them.

I seem to have this happen when I've just playing one.
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