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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:41 pm

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In post 248, hiplop wrote:so Odd-night commuter is banned?


no? it just said night specific is whitelisted
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:41 pm

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In post 248, hiplop wrote:so Odd-night commuter is banned?

What?
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:04 am

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Can I ask why ninja isn't a normal town modifier? I definitely can imagine a use for town ninja power roles.

And the new night-specific modifier.. Can that one be used as "From night x and beyond" (since apparently you can specify a range of nights)? For example, I don't want something used on night 1, but don't want any restrictions beyond that, so: Night 2-and beyond cop, or what ever power role.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:20 pm

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In post 252, Sméagol wrote:Can I ask why ninja isn't a normal town modifier?
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:21 pm

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In post 252, Sméagol wrote:Can I ask why ninja isn't a normal town modifier? I definitely can imagine a use for town ninja power roles.

And the new night-specific modifier.. Can that one be used as "From night x and beyond" (since apparently you can specify a range of nights)? For example, I don't want something used on night 1, but don't want any restrictions beyond that, so: Night 2-and beyond cop, or what ever power role.

Both of those don't seem too unreasonable (and would work fine as a variant role) but I've also never seen either of those in a game. Normal games are to some degree about predictability (or at least taming the level of unpredictability) so that does mean we do care about how common a role is.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:45 pm

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In post 252, Sméagol wrote:Can I ask why ninja isn't a normal town modifier? I definitely can imagine a use for town ninja power roles.

And the new night-specific modifier.. Can that one be used as "From night x and beyond" (since apparently you can specify a range of nights)? For example, I don't want something used on night 1, but don't want any restrictions beyond that, so: Night 2-and beyond cop, or what ever power role.


"Town Night 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Cop" fits within the letter of the new rules, so "Town Night 2+ Cop" definitely fits into the spirit. I'd allow it.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:12 pm

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I don't have any immediate use for ninja townies myself, but I just think it's strange.

A night 2+ modifier however, I can find a use for.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:54 pm

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Think this then:
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:18 pm

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i've used both a town player with a Ninja modifier and a Night 4+ role in my games. do i win something?
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:35 pm

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Update 1 April 2016


Godfather has been moved to the blacklist. This will be effective for any setups which have not yet been sent to me for review. (i.e., this does not affect any moderators or games currently in the queue)
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:35 pm

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??? Why?


We have all these weird variants of tracker/watcher and cop.

Presumably adding the potential for a godfather is specifially a anti-cop strategy.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:53 pm

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Yeah that move is very questionable
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:35 pm

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In post 259, N wrote:Godfather has been moved to the blacklist.

And ninja hasn't been? That's essentially the tracker/watcher counterpart to the godfather. I believe they should be either both normal or both explicitly not normal.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:47 pm

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That would be the Tracker counterpart. Ninjas are still workable with Watchers.

EDIT: But yeah, that does sounds like it makes sense.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:05 pm

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In post 259, N wrote:
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:10 pm

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In post 264, Davsto wrote:
In post 259, N wrote:
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:20 pm

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In post 259, N wrote:
Update 1 April 2016


Godfather has been moved to the blacklist. This will be effective for any setups which have not yet been sent to me for review. (i.e., this does not affect any moderators or games currently in the queue)

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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:05 pm

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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:56 am

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Despite being April Fool's, I'm actually pretty inclined to believe this is true due to this thread.

Btw, was this the thread which sparked the discussion in the NRG to blacklist Godfather?
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:13 am

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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:45 am

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I agree with the fact ninja should be removed if godfather is removing.

This make no sense to remove one and keep the other
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:15 am

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The thing with ninjas is that they're also the best (normal) answer to watchers. It's dumb that that's bundled up with tracker immunity, especially when trackers are so much weaker than cops in the first place, but there aren't any roles that only cover one and not the other.

There's talk of putting godfathers back, on the condition that they're announced in signups. If that happens, other scum roles like framers would also be added in that capacity.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:17 am

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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:21 am

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It isn't.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:23 am

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so it must be an open setup ?
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