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Making fake claims

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:53 am

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What sort of fake claims do you like to make? Usually I claim something that is not possible in the role list to confuse scum into slipping. Then I just lynch who ever votes me.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:11 am

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If you're town you never never never fakeclaim.
Never.

I thought this thread was about scum fake-claiming.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:42 am

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In post 0, Flow Alpha wrote:What sort of fake claims do you like to make? Usually I claim something that is not possible in the role list to confuse scum into slipping. Then I just lynch who ever votes me.

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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:01 am

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If you don't know when to fakeclaim, then you shouldn't fakeclaim.

The situations where fakeclaiming is warranted DO exist.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:26 am

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In post 1, talah wrote:If you're town you never never never fakeclaim.
Never.


If you are a doctor you should probably fakeclaim
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:43 am

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In post 0, Flow Alpha wrote:What sort of fake claims do you like to make? Usually I claim something that is not possible in the role list to confuse scum into slipping. Then I just lynch who ever votes me.


As town, I don't fakeclaim, and if you did this in a game where I was town, I'd tear you to shreds. Unless I'm Serening. You never really can tell what Town Serene will do.

As scum, I claim whatever keeps me alive to continue my murder. If I have to change my claim, I will, though I know it's a well-known scumtell for me to change my claim. But I keep getting away with it, so
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:31 am

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jailkeeper = worlds best scum fakeclaim
third best scummer of all time
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:50 am

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Make fake dayshots.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:55 am

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Tracker / watcher has always been a favorite fake claim of mine

Cop is great if you can fake a guilty
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Third party is good if you can pull it off, I've faked third party more than I've actually been it (which is never)
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:59 am

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yeah, tracker/watcher is great because very often you get no results/meaningless results/can guess

jailkeeper is great because its hard to prove + can get someone lynched via framing + often times you have roleblocker + you know who you're going to shoot as scum and therefore always have a reason why people keep dying
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:04 am

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Doc is also good if you can back it up with your play. It helps if you no-kill at some point to give it a bit of oomph.

I've never faked doc, but I've caught fake docs. I've claimed BP and then no-killed enough times that for a while the no-kill gambit was one of my signatures
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:40 am

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Please do not fakeclaim in your games thank you.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:42 am

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Like, I cannot stress how bad that logic is. "If I make an impossible claim, only scum will vote me."

No. If you make an impossible claim, you should be burned at the stake by all righteous townies and if anything, scum won't even have to push your wagon
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:48 am

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I find fake claims to be funny, i have seemingly reached a point where people disregard my claims altogether cus i have been known to soft fakes as a VT with the intent to die
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:51 am

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In post 0, Flow Alpha wrote:What sort of fake claims do you like to make? Usually I claim something that is not possible in the role list to confuse scum into slipping. Then I just lynch who ever votes me.


This doesn't work as far as making scum slip. If you're lucky you'll draw a NK, but that's about it. Most of the time people will think you're some kind of scum role like traitor trying to hint yourself to the mafia. People really *should* write off impossible claims as just jokes, but many read too much into everything.

If you're going for the joke value though, by all means do. I personally reccomend claiming Beloved Princess Jester.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:56 am

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Well to be fair, when I was a tree stump in US Presidents, I claimed in every post before I died and came back


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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:14 pm

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as jester:

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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:00 pm

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as unlynchable:

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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 13, ika wrote:I find fake claims to be funny, i have seemingly reached a point where people disregard my claims altogether cus i have been known to soft fakes as a VT with the intent to die


This is probably a very bad thing and should hurt your chance to win as both alignments as town should never listen to you. As a town PR, it gets yourself lynched and significantly hurts town win chances. As scum it makes it impossible to get out of a lynch with a claim. Any plan that's results discredit you in your meta to the extent where the game should ignore you is essentially playing against your win condition.

In all town should exceedingly rarely (rarely is not every other game) fakeclaim, even if you are forced to claim VT as VT early, you can at times get out of it. Scum should have a few fakeclaims they have laid out throughout the game, then just pick the best one to suit your situation and what the setup is trending towards (if even using it).
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:04 am

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there are times when fake-claiming is ok to do

that said, anyone who advocates fake-claiming as a good thing to do probably has no idea when the correct timing to do so is
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:15 am

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I usually fake claim daycop or daytracker with guilty result when I have a gut read early day 1. It simultaneously ends RVS and gives me an excuse to push my target.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:55 am

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In post 20, Flow Alpha wrote:daytracker


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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:14 am

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Don't fake guilties.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:42 am

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Like half of Flow Alpha's post history is trolling, guys.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:45 am

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What are people's thoughts on claiming survivor as town? I've heard it can be useful as a lylo gambit, but what about at other points in the game?
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