When is it optimal to release your case

This forum is for discussion related to the game.
User avatar
Ranmaru
Ranmaru
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Ranmaru
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 7092
Joined: March 7, 2011

When is it optimal to release your case

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:13 pm

Post by Ranmaru »

When do you think it is optimal in releasing a case on a scumread? Is there such a thing as 'too early' or 'too late'? Is this something that should matter to me in my mind (in getting a scumread lynched).
Ankamius
Ankamius
Survivor
Ankamius
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21802
Joined: May 9, 2011
Location: Target Locked. Initiating Combat.

Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:09 pm

Post by Ankamius »

If I feel like my words have weight behind them, I will always lead scumreads into my case so that it's significantly harder to wiggle out of it. This generally means I clarify the assumptions I made and then link them together later.

The other 99% of the time, I just push and make shit up because my gut doesn't like to tell me why I'm scumreading things.
User avatar
Firebringer
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
User avatar
User avatar
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
Trail Blazer
Posts: 52561
Joined: June 28, 2015
Location: woofbringer
Contact:

Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:35 pm

Post by Firebringer »

When you have a case on a scum, you should make it.
If no one listens, you reiterate it.

If they continue to ignore you, then just drop it. If at the end game the scum win and your scum read got away just point at your case and say "I told you so"

:)
Show
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
User avatar
Marquis
Marquis
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Marquis
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 11342
Joined: June 23, 2013
Location: EST (–5)

Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:29 pm

Post by Marquis »

Whenever you can get the pagetop.
link in bio
User avatar
Albert B. Rampage
Albert B. Rampage
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Albert B. Rampage
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 27261
Joined: April 8, 2007
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico

Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:59 am

Post by Albert B. Rampage »

When you have momentum
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
User avatar
Kamigami
Kamigami
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Kamigami
Goon
Goon
Posts: 641
Joined: September 8, 2015

Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:26 am

Post by Kamigami »

When you have a positional disadvantage that you believe the case is strong enough to overcome.
User avatar
Equinox
Equinox
he/they
Shot Count
User avatar
User avatar
Equinox
he/they
Shot Count
Shot Count
Posts: 10105
Joined: April 12, 2010
Pronoun: he/they
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:44 pm

Post by Equinox »

In post 3, Marquis wrote:Whenever you can get the pagetop.

It sounds like a joke, but this may be true.

Unless you're waiting for something (preferably specific) to happen that you don't want to spoil by posting a case, there isn't such a thing as "too early" once you've collected enough evidence. However, if momentum is on someone who is at least vaguely scummy, wait until you can get a read on that player before launching your case.

If you tend to be someone who dies during the Night, there is such a thing as "too late."

Don't drop a case if you're being ignored because then you become That Guy in the post-game. There may be a reason behind your being ignored, and you want to root that out as soon as possible. Be annoying about your case. Start bugging people individually about why they're not giving it attention. Aim for the most likely town player who happens to have more charisma than you.
User avatar
Plotinus
Plotinus
Kitten Caboodle
User avatar
User avatar
Plotinus
Kitten Caboodle
Kitten Caboodle
Posts: 7611
Joined: March 13, 2015
Location: UTC+1
Contact:

Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:39 am

Post by Plotinus »

if it's page 1 or 2 you should wait a few pages because nobody will believe you're seriousserious not just pretending to be serious because you're trying to get the game going.

also if you have a secret tell on someone you should wait a few pages after they do it so that it'll be harder for them to find out what the tell was.
The failure mode of clever is asshole.

Modding checklists | Sequencer is in Game 5 | Space II is in Day 4
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Contact:

Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:53 am

Post by Majiffy »

In post 6, Equinox wrote:
In post 3, Marquis wrote:Whenever you can get the pagetop.

It sounds like a joke, but this may be true.

Yeah I've seen good cases go unheeded because they were post (x)x3 or (x)x4 whereby the (x)x5 was a pagetop.

If you get it near the top of the page, that means maximum exposure.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Cheetory6
Cheetory6
MS Painter
User avatar
User avatar
Cheetory6
MS Painter
MS Painter
Posts: 7403
Joined: September 21, 2014
Happy Birthday!

Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:11 am

Post by Cheetory6 »

Use bright neon font to grab the attention of fellow players.
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Contact:

Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:23 am

Post by Majiffy »

You monster
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Cheetory6
Cheetory6
MS Painter
User avatar
User avatar
Cheetory6
MS Painter
MS Painter
Posts: 7403
Joined: September 21, 2014
Happy Birthday!

Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:29 am

Post by Cheetory6 »

Use comic sans to draw the eye to your case.
User avatar
AlwaysInnocent
AlwaysInnocent
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
AlwaysInnocent
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2453
Joined: November 18, 2015

Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:12 am

Post by AlwaysInnocent »

I have a really lame answer.

It depends.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
User avatar
Performer
Performer
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Performer
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4142
Joined: August 6, 2015
Location: California

Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:45 am

Post by Performer »

In post 12, AlwaysInnocent wrote:I have a really lame answer.

It depends.

I have to agree with this one. Sometimes I don't make a case and just wagon with something like "I support this." Sometimes you happen to be in a game where people will scumread you for making a case. Sometimes you're in a game where people will break down your case, gradually leading to them scumreading you. Sometimes it's best to keep things simple.

If you're the first person to lead town by providing your case, in order to mass votes though - go for it.

It really depends if you're trying to lead, co-lead, or follow into things. I think in any situation regarding cases for why someone is scum though, you should think out possible reactions. Sometimes your case makes sense to yourself but it sounds like gibberish to others. This is also why it's a great idea to make sure you come across clearly - proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar certainly helps, as well as chunking posts and paragraphs for easier reading on the eyes.
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
-Jingle
People tried
-RadiantCowbells
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Contact:

Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:05 am

Post by Majiffy »

So guys I think it's pretty clear what we need to do here. We need to lynch Cheetory.


In post 9, Cheetory6 wrote:Use bright neon font to grab the attention of fellow players.

In post 11, Cheetory6 wrote:Use comic sans to draw the eye to your case.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Cheetory6
Cheetory6
MS Painter
User avatar
User avatar
Cheetory6
MS Painter
MS Painter
Posts: 7403
Joined: September 21, 2014
Happy Birthday!

Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:09 am

Post by Cheetory6 »

I feel compelled.
vote: Cheetory6
User avatar
Plotinus
Plotinus
Kitten Caboodle
User avatar
User avatar
Plotinus
Kitten Caboodle
Kitten Caboodle
Posts: 7611
Joined: March 13, 2015
Location: UTC+1
Contact:

Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:12 am

Post by Plotinus »

Image

this puppy hope u lynch him. this pupy sad he not lyncht yet.
The failure mode of clever is asshole.

Modding checklists | Sequencer is in Game 5 | Space II is in Day 4
User avatar
Performer
Performer
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Performer
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4142
Joined: August 6, 2015
Location: California

Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:14 am

Post by Performer »

In post 14, Majiffy wrote:
So guys I think it's pretty clear what we need to do here. We need to lynch Cheetory.


In post 9, Cheetory6 wrote:Use bright neon font to grab the attention of fellow players.

In post 11, Cheetory6 wrote:Use comic sans to draw the eye to your case.

I support this. :)
VOTE: Cheetory6
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
-Jingle
People tried
-RadiantCowbells
User avatar
Ranmaru
Ranmaru
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Ranmaru
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 7092
Joined: March 7, 2011

Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:54 am

Post by Ranmaru »

Sorry Majiffy what you are saying is too bright for me in this pink forumskin.

I can agree with Plotinus though.

Vote: Puppy
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Contact:

Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:04 am

Post by Majiffy »

^ Scum trying to start a CW
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Aeronaut
Aeronaut
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Aeronaut
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 7236
Joined: September 8, 2013
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Boston, MA

Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:08 am

Post by Aeronaut »

#FreeMajiffy
2023 W/L | 1-0
User avatar
Alchemist21
Alchemist21
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Alchemist21
He/Him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8801
Joined: September 5, 2014
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: North Carolina

Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:48 pm

Post by Alchemist21 »

VOTE: Majiffy

That font wasn't comic sans. Hard scumslip imo.
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Contact:

Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:06 pm

Post by Majiffy »

Not my fault the forum doesn't work right.
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
User avatar
Ranmaru
Ranmaru
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Ranmaru
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 7092
Joined: March 7, 2011

Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:18 pm

Post by Ranmaru »

My vote isn't doing much since Puppy is lurking.

Unvote; Vote: Majiffy


I agree with Alchemist, and his bright font is unreadable. Bound to cause confusion, which is what he wants.
User avatar
Majiffy
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
User avatar
User avatar
Majiffy
Go with the Flow
Go with the Flow
Posts: 23825
Joined: November 23, 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Contact:

Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:22 pm

Post by Majiffy »

My god it's just like real mafia, they're all illiterate morons
Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.


How To Win Every Game At Mafiascum (The Flowchart)
||
In case anyone was unsure...
Svenskt Stål (23:38) majiffy, worst mod on ms? we talk to a surviving victim of his game
Post Reply

Return to “Mafia Discussion”