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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:13 am

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I alt slipped by mistake.....:/
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:22 am

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That happens sometimes. Only the people who read the game you slipped in will know. Most people won't know.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:23 am

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But what if they spread the info?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:25 am

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Then they suck. But I don't think most people care enough to do that.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:27 am

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They certainly do care enough to WoTC me. And when I finally decided to get away from it, this happens......
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:30 am

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Welp, this is one of the reasons I was reluctant to make an alt. Guess you win, Wisdom, because of damn slip......
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:33 am

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Jeanne, you're only calling attention to the mistake. Quote your post with your alt, laugh about it, and keep playing.

If anything, all this means is that it's more important to play your best in the alt-slipped game.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:35 am

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That would normally what I'd do, but half of players in that game are wotcers. In the spirit of not talking about ongoing games, I won't say anything else.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:41 am

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That's tough for them. You're already in the game. Just do your best and they have little choice but to give you another chance.

I would highly recommend you avoid people who want to avoid you in the future, though. It simply isn't the case that you're being substantially prevented from joining the kind of games you'd like to join because of what could only be a smallish subpopulation of the site. Build up a rapport with other players such that those other players enjoy playing with you.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:45 am

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Cyberpunk Mafia. Gumball. several other games I am not remembering now. You are saying I was WoTCed out of all those games by a small populace. Not only that, but several people have asserted that I should be WoTCed no matter what in this very thread, with Wisdom as their ringleader.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:57 am

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And it was working so well too.....:/
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:03 am

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I doubt Wisdom is going out of his way to get people to WotC you.

You're almost certainly correct that this thread is not helping your case, but mostly because you're drawing attention to the fact that people WotC you (which you also did in the Gumball signup). Just let it go, play your best, avoid those who don't like you, and you'll be fine.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:05 am

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But the fact is that majority of the site doesn't like me. It's not a coincidence that I am WoTCed in every game I try to sign up for that uses some form of it. You're telling me to avoid the majority of playerbase? Sorry, but that's impossible.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:07 am

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The only way out is either to make an alt, like people have said, or build a site of my own, where I make the rules and therefore am in no danger of being WoTCed.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:10 am

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Most of the playerbase probably doesn't know who you are.

Some of the playerbase will know you only from reading this thread, which is probably a good reason to let it die (which is within your power to do).
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:12 am

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I'm doing my best to refrain from making the obligatory Futurama joke.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:13 am

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I have a list of players I'd be very apprehensive about playing with (although I probably wouldn't WOTC them; everyone deserves multiple chances). Although there's good reason to keep the list secret so as not to cause unnecessary drama, Jeanne isn't on it.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:16 am

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who's on it? pm me
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:14 pm

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@Jeanne - I sometimes just say the moment I PM to the mod that I'm aware that other folks might not want to play with me and if there are any issues I'm happy to rescind my /in

I'm reasonably aware that I can be abrasive at times and my personal preference is that I play in a game where all other players' feelings are respected. So from my humble pov - sometimes it's better to be aware of that and just respect the fact that past behaviour is all that others have to go on. Being that up-front about it also avoids awkward post-backs in signup threads that x or y player wasn't included for whatever reason.

That said. If you're alting and intend to change your own behaviour through an alt, I think it's also best practice to at least let the mod know in some way shape or form that you are an alt. I think the mod of the game is the best judge of how they want their game to run and if they don't have an issue then they can take it on good faith that you're at least going to *try* to play differently if your play in previous games has been shitty.

Also - I'd play with you again anytime (as in I wouldn't avoid you at all). So maybe you're thinking it's a bigger problem than it actually is, or maybe the games where you were asked not to play were a sore spot for players concerned at the time. If you feel you've played shittily with some other players recently, maybe avoid signing up with the same group of players if you know that they're not going to like playing with you again.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:28 pm

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In post 268, talah wrote:@Jeanne - I sometimes just say the moment I PM to the mod that I'm aware that other folks might not want to play with me and if there are any issues I'm happy to rescind my /in

I'm reasonably aware that I can be abrasive at times and my personal preference is that I play in a game where all other players' feelings are respected. So from my humble pov - sometimes it's better to be aware of that and just respect the fact that past behaviour is all that others have to go on. Being that up-front about it also avoids awkward post-backs in signup threads that x or y player wasn't included for whatever reason.

That said. If you're alting and intend to change your own behaviour through an alt, I think it's also best practice to at least let the mod know in some way shape or form that you are an alt. I think the mod of the game is the best judge of how they want their game to run and if they don't have an issue then they can take it on good faith that you're at least going to *try* to play differently if your play in previous games has been shitty.

Also -
I'd play with you again anytime (as in I wouldn't avoid you at all).
So maybe you're thinking it's a bigger problem than it actually is, or maybe the games where you were asked not to play were a sore spot for players concerned at the time. If you feel you've played shittily with some other players recently, maybe avoid signing up with the same group of players if you know that they're not going to like playing with you again.


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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:58 pm

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Why are people trying to reward this attitude
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:02 pm

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Idk what the attitude really is but I know this thread is mostly about Jeanne's experiences with wotc.
Just empathising and speaking troof.
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