How do you take your mafia skills to the next level?

[BlackStar]

I've been here for a few months, but I don't feel like I've gotten that much better. Maybe I'm a little better at reading people, but I'm still bad at getting people to believe that I'm town. Im not sure what I should do to improve faster. Help?

[Majiffy]

No easy way to do it. Find what you're best at and focus on that, really.

[BlackStar]

I guess I'm good at... starting arguments?

[MarioManiac4]

you don't

[Cheetory6]

Play a lot. Reflect on mistakes. Talk to people instead of talking at people.
Also being likeable helps.
Make active effort to be pleasant or fun to play with.

[MarioManiac4]

Play a lot. Reflect on mistakes. Talk to people instead of talking at people.
Also being likeable helps.
Make active effort to be pleasant or fun to play with.

and i do none of these =)

[Titus]

Hey, BlackStar.

Glad you're still here. Appearing town has a lot to do with either a) appearing normal or b) doing things scum don't do.

Professor types have more trouble getting townread IMO than emotional types.

[hiplop]

Policy lynch titus every time and due to some freak of nature she is scum 50%+ of the time

[Cerberus v666]

Policy lynch titus every time and due to some freak of nature she is scum 50%+ of the time

Or you could policy hiplop everytime and hit scum 80%+ of the time!!

[Titus]

Policy lynch titus every time and due to some freak of nature she is scum 50%+ of the time

I like funny Hiplop.

That's actually not true lately.

Back in early 13-14 I had like 5 scum wins in a row. It's ahem colored people.

[BlackStar]

Hey, BlackStar.

Glad you're still here. Appearing town has a lot to do with either a) appearing normal or b) doing things scum don't do.

Professor types have more trouble getting townread IMO than emotional types.

People always say that my posts feel artificial even though I'm being genuine. So if I don't try to look town I'm scummy and if I do try to look town I'm still scummy. Could tell me more about this professor and emotional type thing?

[Cerberus v666]

Hey, BlackStar.

Glad you're still here. Appearing town has a lot to do with either a) appearing normal or b) doing things scum don't do.

Professor types have more trouble getting townread IMO than emotional types.

People always say that my posts feel artificial even though I'm being genuine. So if I don't try to look town I'm scummy and if I do try to look town I'm still scummy. Could tell me more about this professor and emotional type thing?

Well, it's pretty straightforward. Some people read people through how they "feel" about them, and some people read them based on what seems rational.

Applying rational thought to things often seems artificial and contrived, because in a way it is. You have to think everything through, just like scum does, before you make a post. They do it to make sure they're not accidentally revealing something, "professor" types do it to make sure they're covering all the bases related to whatever theory they're talking about.

Shooting from the hip, as it were, and just going off your "gut" without putting any more effort into it, simply reads tonally as more genuine, because it's more stream of consciousness and just kinda flows out there.

[Davsto]

Rare candy

[Killthestory]

play a shit ton

its also the people you hang out with to discuss mafia. i improved so much when i started hanging out with people who were really good

[Davsto]

Honestly, if you're like me, you'll just randomly find you're playing better

Like, you won't really notice, then suddenly halfway through or at the end of the game you'll suddenly realise "woah wtf I never played this well before"

[grapes]

I noticed you haven't rolled scum yet.

That would help.

[BlackStar]

I noticed you haven't rolled scum yet.

That would help.

I was scum once in a game where i got to choose my alignment lol

[BlackStar]

play a shit ton

its also the people you hang out with to discuss mafia

. i improved so much when i started hanging out with people who were really good

Hmm... Maybe I could form a group with the specific purpose of discussing mafia theory. We could call it the Blackstar Crime Family

[Killthestory]

im in a group that discuss mafia theory rn too actually. lots of good shit that happens there

[Albert B. Rampage]

It takes 3, 5, 7 years to get good, not months.

[kuribo]

I guess I'm good at... starting arguments?

That's simply not enough.

Murder is an art form, and until you learn to channel those arguments into raw, seething hatred, you'll never attain true greatness.

Embrace the murdercock. Sell your soul to me, and let me fill you with the combined sins of your ancestors that they may carry you to greatness. Crush those that stand before you, reducing them to a spray of red. Take up the mantle carried by He Who Rides the Pale Horse, make him proud at the civilizations your gameplay will bring to ruin. Feast upon fear and dread, make them your meals and vomit the hate into the thread.

Only by taking the darkness within you can you expel the light that holds you back.

[Killthestory]

It takes 3, 5, 7 years to get good, not months.

i disagree. you should know if youre good or not within a couple months. if you arent good, youll never be as good as someone who found they were good

[Accountant]

You aren't good at using quotes.

[Killthestory]

i just realized what the fuck i did lmfao

[zMuffinMan]

It takes 3, 5, 7 years to get good, not months.

i disagree. you should know if youre good or not within a couple months. if you arent good, youll never be as good as someone who found they were good

i don't think this is true and being "good" is hard to measure

i think a "good" scum hunter has a lot of the same qualities as a good poker player - you can learn to be more successful than not, but unlike poker, there's no huge incentive to do so (and, hey, even in poker, a lot of people don't try to improve but it's not because they can't, it's because they don't)

simple things like reducing the amount of times you get lynched, avoiding lapses in logic, working with and persuading others are easy to learn - accuracy is mostly pattern recognition on top of a good foundation of logic a i don't think this is that hard to learn, either. besides, despite what some people might boast, the majority of players probably have average accuracy or very slightly below or above average accuracy based on what you'd expect by random chance. i say "probably" because a small sample size (ie almost anyone's game history) makes it hard to determine how "accurate" someone really is (which also happens to be one of the ways i think mafia resembles poker)