Ethics of conceding

Accountant · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:49 am

What if they send in no action

McMenno · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:56 am

then they should be replaced

ISO · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:57 am

then they die. but that had already happened and cfj would have made 100% sure that it didn't happen again.

Dragonfire · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:24 am

I was just reading a newbie game where on 5p LyLo, one scum gambled the game by claiming BP to support his fellow scum's Tracker claim against the town Cop (who had a guilty on the scum claiming Tracker). He obviously decided that it was more beneficial to risk everything then and there, and hopefully win that day, than lynch his teammate and hope to win a 3p LyLo with one confirmed townie. He lost the gamble, as his fellow scum was lynched. Since he was 100% confirmed scum and admitted it then and there, why shouldn't he just concede the game, since there would be no point in dragging it on at that stage.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:32 am

Yeah I was in that game

Be careful talking about stuff like that because it's technically ongoing but not really.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:43 am

a distinction needs to be made between a completely unwinnable scenario (barring town massively fucking up due to sheer stupidity - and while some people have said that this can happen, i personally wouldn't aim for that and wouldn't be proud of winning a game because of that) and a situation where you theoretically could win without town just falling asleep at the wheel but the odds are heavily stacked against you

#78 is an example of the former and there's nothing wrong with conceding there

callforjudgement · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:25 am

Personally, my view is that if town have a forced win and the only way to salvage a scum win is for town to massively screw things up, then a) conceding is reasonable, and I wouldn't fault anyone for doing so; and b) aiming for the screwup is also reasonable and probably the option I'd take. If the game is unwinnable in normal circumstances, you may as well have some fun and maybe fluke a win out of it if town is excessively awful. (Then I'd count it as them losing rather than me winning, and I wouldn't be

proud

of the victory but I would be satisfied. Also, it would likely be hilarious.)

Accountant · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:54 am

In post 78, Dragonfire wrote:I was just reading a newbie game where on 5p LyLo, one scum gambled the game by claiming BP to support his fellow scum's Tracker claim against the town Cop (who had a guilty on the scum claiming Tracker). He obviously decided that it was more beneficial to risk everything then and there, and hopefully win that day, than lynch his teammate and hope to win a 3p LyLo with one confirmed townie. He lost the gamble, as his fellow scum was lynched. Since he was 100% confirmed scum and admitted it then and there, why shouldn't he just concede the game, since there would be no point in dragging it on at that stage.

I was actually in this scenario, only I CCed the cop and my teammate decided to go ham and CC the doc. We lost, badly >.< Which was especially irritating since we definitely could have won the 3P (the cop wanted to lynch the last, unCCed, guy).

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:56 pm

I was in this one too, and I have to say it was a bold move, but I didn't trust it at all because of the duplicity of the post.

zakk · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:51 am

In post 11, Accountant wrote:I actually think not conceding is more respectful, it shows you have the fighting spirit and respect for your opponent to try your best to claw a victory out of nothing

In post 13, ConManMick wrote:Haven't you people ever heard of a Blood Sacrifice? You've got to fight to the very bitter end, to inspire future generations

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