What's worse?

[Firebringer]

Someone who doesn't play games and flakes out of nearly everyone of them they are in?

Or

Someone who talks to a player outside of the game about stuff pertaining to the game?

[Firebringer]

For the record, mod team decided that second one is only bad and the first will never get you banned.

[McMenno]

stop

[Realeo]

But he has a point, to be fair. Both a) and b) is bad. For b), we have spectator/dead chat where you can talk about the game even if you're just a spectator. Just throw a PM and he will add you to the dead PT. There is no system to solve a)

[Infinity 324]

Someone who doesn't play games and flakes out of nearly everyone of them they are in?

Or

Someone who talks to a player outside of the game about stuff pertaining to the game?

It depends on the nature of the outside-of-game communication to be fair.

but in general I think the second one is worse. The first is simply an annoyance, a big annoyance at worst but still you can always replace them.

Ongoing game discussion, though, can break the game for everyone and at that point it ruins the game permanently.

[Infinity 324]

But it's possible that ongoing game rules are taken a bit too seriously here. On the other hand, people still do it, so maybe it's necessary to scare people

[Realeo]

but in general I think the second one is worse. The first is simply an annoyance, a big annoyance at worst but still you can always replace them.

This is True if prododge doesn't count is site meta. It's not a site meta.

[Infinity 324]

If site meta was to talk about ongoing games it would be even worse, every game would be compromised pretty much

[Realeo]

No. No. No. I'm not challenging b is better than a. I never say that. I am challenging "Moderator thinks a) will never get you banned"

[Firebringer]

The point was that they are both terrible and can damage games the same amount, but are both treated vastly different by moderator standards.
A will never get you banned.
B will get you in trouble in most cases.

[Infinity 324]

You have a point there. It is more difficult to enforce a no-flaking policy, but if it becomes a pattern for a specific player I do think they could consider a ban.

[Creature]

If you frequently do A, some users might blacklist you from their games.

[BrainpanSonata]

A) seems like something where you gotta start up a conversation with the player in question about how they're overloading themself on mafia games. Blacklist or ban or no, the player still needs to understand that they're doing too much at once and it's affecting how they play.

I consider B) to be straight up rule breaking. Doesn't matter who you're talking to if you're talking about an ongoing game you're participating in. A player who talks about their ongoings can't be certain the info they give won't find its way back to another player in the game.

[Spiffeh]

The second one actually compromises the game and basically ruins it for everyone else

The first one while annoying can easily be fixed by a replacement

[Frozen Angel]

Fire shut up

its discussing an ongoing game and talking about a ban at the same time

You deserve to get banned for making this topic and I will report you

Your argument is flawed ; you have no logic behind your stupid advertising shit. Your fucking arrogant and your making me feel sick about this and you.

[Frozen Angel]

This is literally the most angry version of me that has ever been on MS

[Frozen Angel]

Lock this thread before I burn you to ashes

You didn't see my rage yet

[mykonian]

A has gotten people banned.

[Nexus]

No good can currently come of this thread so I'm going to lock it until told otherwise. Please PM me with any issues.