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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:24 am

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Oh. I'm not doing the same thing as realeo, so my rules and his don't overlap.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:32 am

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In post 196, mhsmith0 wrote:A bit of a flip from 1.001 - Rask's rating took a hit from the loss, and Loop's rating got a bump from the 1767 win
take that Rask! :P
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:36 am

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For kicks I tried looking at my own town rating (on a 2-2 record) - that 1756 loss was CRUSHING. JaeReed and Loop both high score villagers, and I got rated at a loss w/ them, despite GOATing like crazy there.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Also I lost 1691 with Thor, another unfortunate result that doesn't really help.

Guess I need to start winning more or something :P
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:09 pm

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Soon.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:16 pm

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lol went back to research, 1370 actually was the first ever matrix6 http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6
so my stats are all matrix6 games, fun!
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:45 pm

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Repository updated.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:12 pm

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I am confuzed.

I notice there is hydra when compiling Open. Should I split the hydra or not?
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:14 pm

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IMO treat the hydra as an account on its own. Players play differently inside and outside hydras.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:56 am

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Update for 1768 and 1770, plus a couple other fixes:
Spoiler: v1.003 results
Log Rating Record
Player Town Scum Combined Town Scum Combined
GuyInFreezer 1.64 1.64 12-3 1-1 13-4
Thor665 0.46 -0.40 0.86 12-13 6-3 18-16
Malakittens 0.85 0.85 17-10 3-3 20-13
fferyllt 0.76 0.76 12-5 3-1 15-6
T S O 0.71 0.71 7-5 2-2 9-7
Xayzeck 0.58 0.58 7-4 1-4 8-8
Micc 0.57 0.57 5-4 2-1 7-5
singersigner 0.55 0.55 6-5 1-0 7-5
Huntress 0.55 0.55 7-5 1-3 8-8
Drixx 0.48 0.48 11-10 3-2 14-12
JaeReed 0.39 0.39 5-4 0-0 5-4
RadiantCowbells 0.34 0.34 14-15 4-1 18-16
Hopkirk 0.33 0.33 5-3 2-0 7-3
Bulbazak 0.28 0.28 5-4 2-2 7-6
Loopdan 0.26 0.26 5-5 2-0 7-5
Guyett 0.26 0.26 7-7 2-2 9-9
Raskolnikov 0.23 0.23 5-6 1-2 6-8
tojam2 0.17 0.17 3-5 0-1 3-6
theslimer3 0.09 0.09 4-4 0-0 4-4
jmo16mla 0.08 0.08 5-5 0-0 5-5
hayatoBL 0.03 0.03 5-6 3-1 8-7
TheIrishPope 0.00 0.00 4-5 1-3 5-8
innocentvillager -0.02 -0.02 5-7 4-1 9-8
Wisdom 0.04 -0.04 3-4 6-4 9-8
copper223 -0.10 -0.10 3-5 2-0 5-5
goodmorning -0.20 -0.09 -0.11 14-23 7-5 21-28
Nachomamma8 0.70 0.83 -0.13 17-12 5-12 22-24
House -0.18 -0.18 5-7 2-0 7-7
Nobody Special -0.19 -0.19 6-8 1-2 7-10
JasonWazza -0.19 -0.19 4-5 3-3 7-8
RachMarie -0.19 -0.19 11-18 2-2 13-20
Dierfire -0.21 -0.21 6-10 2-2 8-12
Sakura Hana -0.22 -0.22 5-6 3-3 8-9
Accountant -0.23 -0.23 6-11 2-1 8-12
Not_Mafia -0.30 -0.30 6-10 3-4 9-14
PhantomCobalt -0.32 -0.32 5-8 1-1 6-9
BlueBloodedToffee -0.13 0.21 -0.34 10-17 6-5 16-22
Ms Marangal -0.41 -0.41 3-6 1-4 4-10
NicCage -0.45 -0.45 2-6 0-0 2-6
Cabd -0.46 -0.46 6-8 0-0 6-8
notscience -0.29 0.19 -0.48 9-16 5-4 14-20
Alexcellent -0.49 -0.49 3-5 0-1 3-6
enomis -0.51 -0.51 2-6 0-0 2-6
Flubbernugget -0.70 -0.70 3-8 0-0 3-8
MarioManiac4 -0.87 -0.87 2-8 1-2 3-10
Jake from State Farm -0.91 -0.91 2-10 1-3 3-13
Titus -1.00 -1.00 3-12 0-2 3-14


intercept: -0.403 (40.1% town win odds given entirely "other" players)
combined error: 248.87 (average 0.624)


Spoiler: updates and corrections list
Added newbies 1768 and 1770
RC added to newbie 1711
Added tojam2 to tracking list (has now reached 8 town games)


Interesting changes and other notes:
Nothing in particular from this update tbh
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 208, mhsmith0 wrote:Update for 1768 and 1770, plus a couple other fixes:
Spoiler: v1.003 results
Log Rating Record
Player Town Scum Combined Town Scum Combined
GuyInFreezer 1.64 1.64 12-3 1-1 13-4
Thor665 0.46 -0.40 0.86 12-13 6-3 18-16
Malakittens 0.85 0.85 17-10 3-3 20-13
fferyllt 0.76 0.76 12-5 3-1 15-6
T S O 0.71 0.71 7-5 2-2 9-7
Xayzeck 0.58 0.58 7-4 1-4 8-8
Micc 0.57 0.57 5-4 2-1 7-5
singersigner 0.55 0.55 6-5 1-0 7-5
Huntress 0.55 0.55 7-5 1-3 8-8
Drixx 0.48 0.48 11-10 3-2 14-12
JaeReed 0.39 0.39 5-4 0-0 5-4
RadiantCowbells 0.34 0.34 14-15 4-1 18-16
Hopkirk 0.33 0.33 5-3 2-0 7-3
Bulbazak 0.28 0.28 5-4 2-2 7-6
Loopdan 0.26 0.26 5-5 2-0 7-5
Guyett 0.26 0.26 7-7 2-2 9-9
Raskolnikov 0.23 0.23 5-6 1-2 6-8
tojam2 0.17 0.17 3-5 0-1 3-6
theslimer3 0.09 0.09 4-4 0-0 4-4
jmo16mla 0.08 0.08 5-5 0-0 5-5
hayatoBL 0.03 0.03 5-6 3-1 8-7
TheIrishPope 0.00 0.00 4-5 1-3 5-8
innocentvillager -0.02 -0.02 5-7 4-1 9-8
Wisdom 0.04 -0.04 3-4 6-4 9-8
copper223 -0.10 -0.10 3-5 2-0 5-5
goodmorning -0.20 -0.09 -0.11 14-23 7-5 21-28
Nachomamma8 0.70 0.83 -0.13 17-12 5-12 22-24
House -0.18 -0.18 5-7 2-0 7-7
Nobody Special -0.19 -0.19 6-8 1-2 7-10
JasonWazza -0.19 -0.19 4-5 3-3 7-8
RachMarie -0.19 -0.19 11-18 2-2 13-20
Dierfire -0.21 -0.21 6-10 2-2 8-12
Sakura Hana -0.22 -0.22 5-6 3-3 8-9
Accountant -0.23 -0.23 6-11 2-1 8-12
Not_Mafia -0.30 -0.30 6-10 3-4 9-14
PhantomCobalt -0.32 -0.32 5-8 1-1 6-9
BlueBloodedToffee -0.13 0.21 -0.34 10-17 6-5 16-22
Ms Marangal -0.41 -0.41 3-6 1-4 4-10
NicCage -0.45 -0.45 2-6 0-0 2-6
Cabd -0.46 -0.46 6-8 0-0 6-8
notscience -0.29 0.19 -0.48 9-16 5-4 14-20
Alexcellent -0.49 -0.49 3-5 0-1 3-6
enomis -0.51 -0.51 2-6 0-0 2-6
Flubbernugget -0.70 -0.70 3-8 0-0 3-8
MarioManiac4 -0.87 -0.87 2-8 1-2 3-10
Jake from State Farm -0.91 -0.91 2-10 1-3 3-13
Titus -1.00 -1.00 3-12 0-2 3-14


intercept: -0.403 (40.1% town win odds given entirely "other" players)
combined error: 248.87 (average 0.624)


Spoiler: updates and corrections list
Added newbies 1768 and 1770
RC added to newbie 1711
Added tojam2 to tracking list (has now reached 8 town games)


Interesting changes and other notes:
Nothing in particular from this update tbh
I should play more newbies...
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:46 am

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In post 209, LicketyQuickety wrote:I should play more newbies...
FWIW you're actually close to getting on the ratings list; my #s have you as 5-1 town, 1-2 scum. So two more town games gets you to 8 and a rating.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:43 pm

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I wish I liked newbie games just so I could be better than Drixx. :(
GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:00 am

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I was compiling my new algorithm until something struck me....

Why are we using logarithmic loss?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:05 am

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Omg. I'm stupid.

I have been too harsh at myself by saying "Realeo, your algorithm is worse than coin toss" until I realize that coin toss is discrete algorithm while everything else is a continuous algorithm. I can't compare discrete to continuous.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:24 am

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A coin toss is discrete so I make my program spits discrete prediction. The new algorithm has an accuracy of 51.7%
over cross-validation


After I have actual free time, I will deploy the leaderboard of the new alogirthm.

Be assured that I still compile Open. However, to get insight why it is so hard to compile, I challenge you to compile open 626.

You will sympathize for me after opening Open 626
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:33 pm

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so have we discerned who is the most best?
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:17 pm

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Not yet. We are now trying to find which one is the best to find which one is the best.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:49 am

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So I finally find myself a free time, but I have a question.

Say that you have a boolean equation in Excel. How do you apply those equation to the entire row? It's getting annoying if I have to click and drag the whole thing--especially the fact that I may have to do that repeatedly.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:59 am

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Can you give a more detailed example? Not sure what you're asking.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:11 am

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I have an =NOT(AND()) formula that I want to apply to the entire column. I usually put the formula at one cell and drag it down. It becomes cubbersome.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:15 am

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I have only finished moving the 2014 data

It employs different algorithm--glicko. New explanation comes soon.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:20 am

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If you double click the bottom right if a cell, it may copy all the way down. Or could copy cell, then control shift end, then shift+left until you're back to where you want to be, which usually takes just a couple seconds for a copy.

Or you could just do =and(whole range)? Still not quite sure what you're trying to do, sorry.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:26 am

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I keep antagonizing myself for not sparing time to run the script to make the excel version.

So I spared some time and realize I already did. =(
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:44 am

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It's here! Updated Elo is here!

We use Glicko method to calculate your elo.

People kept protesting that

[X] Mafia is a small sample game
[X] We discard Theme game (and I fail to compile Open) diminishing a huge room of sample on our calculation.
[X] Every setup is different.
[X] It relies on other player as well
[X] Good player can be fucked up by bad player.

With so much noise, we cannot provide accurate elo.

Therefore, instead of giving an elo, we provide you a range of elo. If your elo is 1525
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150, this means that your elo is in range of (1375,1675)

Your range goes smaller as you play game and goes higher as you took hiatus.

The elo is calculated every quarter.

More detail tommorow after well-deserved sleep.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:46 am

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