Common handling of hider role
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Common handling of hider role
I haven't been able to find an answer by search or on wikis
But if a hider targets scum
And a doctor also targets hider
Does hider live?
Or is the hider death from targeting scum above that?- Randomnamechange
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The answer to that isn't on the wiki?
I mean, I can understand that circa three years ago.
But the hider role was standardized (mostly) quite a bit ago. (I mean, I personally lost the battle to have MY definition of hider which was sensible and rational be used, but I do remember we set a standard anyway even if not the one I preferred.)
It used to be moderator decision.
Nowadays, general consensus is indeed, hider dies.- Randomnamechange
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i like to think of it in terms of people and houses.
Hider A camps out at player B house, which means that anyone targeting hider does nothing because he's nit at his house. Otoh any kills targeting B also hits A (think of it like someone shooting up B house, anyone there dies, excepting a doc action on B or a BP from B), because that's where b is.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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With some variants of the role, you could save the Hider by targeting their target. The doc goes round to the scum's house, finds a dying Hider outside who's been shot by the scum, and treats their wounds.
I don't think that variant's all that popular nowadays though because it leads to some bizarre role interactions.scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- Infinity 324
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Because nobody could agree on what the role actually did. One of the goals of Normals is that if you see a standardised role, you should know how it works.
It's now a greylist role, i.e. it counts as a nonstandardised role but is allowed in with NRG permission. The advantage of that is that as nonstandardised roles are nonstandardised, the standardisation issues with Hider don't hurt it there.scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- Infinity 324
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