Which is better?

PokerFace · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:03 am

To learn you were wrong
OR
To learn you were right

Let's say you are town. And thought X was also town. You were right. How does that feel?
Let's say you are town. And thought X was also town. You were wrong. How does that feel?

Let's say you are town. And thought X was scum. You were right. How does that feel?
Let's say you are town. And thought X was scum. You were wrong. How does that feel?

Personally I think I'd rather be wrong as I learn something and get better. I think I'd rather learn from my mistakes than just be right. But how do you think?

Randomnamechange · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:12 am

if you are right then you don't need to learn. a mixture would be best. getting all of your reads wrong in a game sucks, but getting all of them right won't help you improve

Alchemist21 · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:28 am

I'd rather be right because it lets me know I'm going in the right direction. You can get things wrong 100 different ways but being right can set you on the path to improving.

How I rank the feelings of the 4 scenarios (from feeling greatest about to feeling worst about):

Being right about a player being scum
Being right about a player being Town
Being wrong about a player being scum
Being wrong about a player being Town

Lycanfire · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:42 am

being right is pure satisfaction. being wrong is more fun. being wrong and having my reads evolve and my play become something greater is something much more enjoyable to me. it's real progress, game-solving.

ISO · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:40 pm

Ego? Right.

Otherwise?
Wrong. Definitely wrong.
There's no reason, short of ego, to want to learn you're right.
There's plenty of reason to want to learn you are wrong.

Killthestory · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:58 pm

you learn more being wrong than u can ever learn from being right

Psyche · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:26 pm

In post 0, PokerFace wrote:To learn you were wrong
OR
To learn you were right

Let's say you are town. And thought X was also town. You were right. How does that feel?
Let's say you are town. And thought X was also town. You were wrong. How does that feel?

Let's say you are town. And thought X was scum. You were right. How does that feel?
Let's say you are town. And thought X was scum. You were wrong. How does that feel?

Personally I think I'd rather be wrong as I learn something and get better. I think I'd rather learn from my mistakes than just be right. But how do you think?

being right and being wrong can be equally misleading or teachable depending on how you integrate feedback into future play
the idea that you can only learn from mistakes is false

PokerFace · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:40 pm

Psyche wrote:the idea that you can only learn from mistakes is false

I was not trying to say that

There is value to learning you are right. Confidence comes from past success. Being right feels like 1 step forward while being wrong is a step back followed by 2 or more steps forward. The 'or more' makes it worth it to me

KainTepes · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:13 pm

i like being WRONG,, it will be GREATER M NIGHT SHYMALAN PLOT TWISTER that way,, SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!

KainTepes · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:14 pm

How I rank the feelings of the 4 scenarios (from feeling greatest about to feeling worst about):

Being wrong about a player being Town
Being right about a player being scum
Being right about a player being Town
Being wrong about a player being scum

KainTepes · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:14 pm

best feeling is BEING WRONG ABOUT PLAYER BEING TOWN.................. because if i townread someone and then BAM PLOT TWIST he is scum,, i will be SHOCKED AND IMPRESSED!!!!! it is like i am betrayed by my BEST FRIEND,, very DRAMATIC

Ranmaru · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:39 pm

I like being right. Especially since sometimes I am very confident and being wrong depresses me. Lately I'm trying to be more flexible.

Postie · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:47 pm

Once again KainTepes wins the thread.

In post 9, KainTepes wrote:How I rank the feelings of the 4 scenarios (from feeling greatest about to feeling worst about):

Being wrong about a player being Town
Being right about a player being scum
Being right about a player being Town
Being wrong about a player being scum

Also this actually exactly how I would rank the usefulness of those 4 scenarios in terms of helping me improve my play.