Scummies Nomination Thread 2017


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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:16 am

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not just about having good reads but being able to do something with it

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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:20 am

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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:43 am

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:47 am

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Guys, are you nominating via the form? If not, it will not count. The only nominations I see are Alisae for Best Setup yesterday
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:50 am

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haha I just figured ppl were giving shoutouts in conjunction with filling out the form
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:51 am

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The only nomination I have from the past month and a half is Alisae's nom for jjh927's game as best setup. The one before that was on 10/4 and was Boonskiies nominating Unabombah for Rising Star.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:17 pm

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Well I thought that SOMEONE had nominated through the form, and was voicing my verbal approval.

I also don't see the form for nomination in the OP`?

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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:24 pm

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Nominating Ellibereth for Paragon.


Excellent town performance in Beneath The Mask. Ellibereth was the leader in a four-day town victory in a five-scum game. His reads were impeccable, exclusively pushing scum players all game, and identifying four out of the five scum players, with the fifth one in his PoE. He was also instrumental in getting people to vote for his reads, as well as organizing a massclaim that effectively solved the game. In the process, he also became a top townread for practically every player, despite having no mechanical reason to be cleared. Top quality performance in all aspects of a town game.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:37 pm

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paragon is a body of work award
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:33 pm

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Once he wins another town game, I'll amend my statement to say "also, he's good in other games."
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:48 pm

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He has won other town games.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:54 pm

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shrug, not like anyone takes these awards seriosuly already anyway
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:00 pm

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I mean how many games has he played this year, was he consistently good in all of them?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:04 pm

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In post 338, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean how many games has he played this year, was he consistently good in all of them?
I mean he's just came back around and he's been constant
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:06 pm

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I can't find a single game that he was in as town besides this one excluding as a hydra which aren't counted.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:07 pm

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There are no "best town performance" awards, so...
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:08 pm

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And I'm not objecting to the nom I haven't read the game I'm just trying to clarify.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:16 pm

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I view my nomination as an endorsement based on a great individual performance. Whether or not he actually deserves the award, or even to be nominated, is up to the judges.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:28 pm

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Okay speaking seriously for a moment. I think it's a little silly to nom someone for Paragon when what you're actually nomming them for is Best Town Performance (which doesn't exist anymore) and then relegate responsibility to the judges. It's not your fault obviously that Best Town doesn't exist anymore (probably for good reason?) so it makes sense that you'd want to use Paragon as a substitute but Paragon is a body of work award so if the body of work isn't there then it shouldn't be the nomination if you want the awards to have a real sense of integrity. Obviously the whole idea of awards as a thing in itself is a little silly and worth a bit of fun more than anything but that's not an excuse imo to make them even more silly by casually throwing nominations around.

I agree that from what I read Ellibereth had some tops dayplay there, and he deserves props for that tops for sure. If he plays more games at the same level I'd be the first on board to nom him for Paragon. I don't agree that someone playing one or two great games qualifies them for a body of work award and I can think of a bunch of people who have played one or two great towngames lately who haven't even been considered as a Paragon nom. Saying that you'll amend your nom when he plays more great games kind of makes your nom shallow because it looks like you're either invested in a way that doesn't make sense for an awards process (which I think should be a mostly rational process) or just not really vetting your nom very thoroughly. Maybe I'm just being Doctor Stiff O'clock and overly legalistic but I think nomming people for things that don't really fit the nom cheapens it and expecting the judges on top of that to sort through the noise isn't a super great approach overall.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:34 pm

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I mean if we're doing real talk, then site town meta is so consistently appalling that there are essentially ZERO players who I think legitimately deserve paragon as it's imagined. And if someone needs to win, the guy who's crushed it ina pretty small sample size is, at least, defensible as a reasonable choice not just for nom but fir winner. If you disagree, I guess come up with a better name?
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:41 pm

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Hi guys.
Thanks for the support.

On phone now but this is my only other completed town game since coming back: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=73385.

Unfortunately rolled scum in the other two...
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:45 pm

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In post 346, Ellibereth wrote:Hi guys.
Thanks for the support.

On phone now but this is my only other completed town game since coming back: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=73385.

Unfortunately rolled scum in the other two...
besides RVS Bulba

Elli literally only voted scum players
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:49 pm

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Didn't someone say 1 game can earn you paragon anyways if it's that deserving? I thought we had a discussion on this a while ago
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:49 pm

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Kilos was a lot more of a group effort. Kagami/chess/hito were all great.
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