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Post Post #100  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:14 pm

We look forward to your class.
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Post Post #101  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:09 pm

In post 1, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:Persuasion (as Town)

If you are town you have three goals:
1. Stay alive.
2. Find scum.
3. Get scum lynched or otherwise killed.

To accomplish your goals you must be able to pursuade others. Common approaches to persuasion include:
1. Screaming
2. Whining
3. Desperate pleading
4. Active lurking combined with naked votes
5. Presenting evidence-based cases that clearly articulate the reasons why a player is of a certain alignment.

Research shows that the first four methods are highly effective persuasion techniques, While the last technique will almost certainly result in your own lynch.


That’s sad.

Thing with Nancy is we just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it.

(I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
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Post Post #102  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:37 am


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Post Post #103  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:35 pm

*holds up the skeletal remains of tier's hand*
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Post Post #104  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:35 pm

In post 4, Kagami wrote:You can also make no point at all and relying on others to follow your train of thought without direct assistance, which is actually a pretty reasonable strategy in a game where a verbalized argument may fall flat simply because reasons are often difficult to articulate.


I didnt know theres a thread post somewhere that described me

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Post Post #105  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:50 pm

Or be like me and give the thought processes but not the info to use it on
"That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)" -the worst
"If Ank is scum, she's some ungodly abomination that's a hybrid of C.Shep's weird busses and the worst's nonstop redirection." -Krazy
"Why should I be listening to you, even if you're town everything you say reads to me like you come from another planet" -Elbirn

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Post Post #106  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:24 am

In post 103, mhsmith0 wrote:*holds up the skeletal remains of tier's hand*


Yes, mhsmith0?
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Post Post #107  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:21 am

In post 106, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:
In post 103, mhsmith0 wrote:*holds up the skeletal remains of tier's hand*


Yes, mhsmith0?


re:
In post 6, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:Persuasion for scum is nothing more than getting town to believe you are town. Some might argue and say the job of scum is to get town to lynch each other. This ignores the cardinal rule of scum-play: Town is dumb and they will find their own mis-lynches without you guiding them.


What happens when you're scum in a game where the town ISN'T a gigantic collection of morons? And in those cases, what is your best recommendation for how to drive (or at least achieve) mislynches?
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Post Post #108  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:24 pm

In post 107, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 106, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:
In post 103, mhsmith0 wrote:*holds up the skeletal remains of tier's hand*


Yes, mhsmith0?


re:
In post 6, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:Persuasion for scum is nothing more than getting town to believe you are town. Some might argue and say the job of scum is to get town to lynch each other. This ignores the cardinal rule of scum-play: Town is dumb and they will find their own mis-lynches without you guiding them.


What happens when you're scum in a game where the town ISN'T a gigantic collection of morons? And in those cases, what is your best recommendation for how to drive (or at least achieve) mislynches?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thing with Nancy is we just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it.

(I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~ the worst

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Post Post #109  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:30 pm

You laugh but a pretty solid % of my wolf games have come against pretty stacked towns.

Like, as an example, my 2017 MU hydra game 13/4 against

nancy/camn (ragequit d1 [THANK GOD for the record] but still)
Dunn/MariaR
Quick/darcstar
Sooh/xicor (xicor is super lynchbait but sooh is competent)
delphine/pozzai (2 competent players, i've played w/ delphine before and she's somewhat familiar w/ my meta)
proph/ryker (also 2 competent players, though i don't know them well)
(and then mainly town potatoes so far as I remember, though town got a huge gift in an n2 sub-in of BATMAN/Frog replacing a potato slot before I, uh... blasted them in the face that night :P )

that's probably around the mid point, maybe even a bit below average for towns I've faced up against

so it's an important question for me given my meta and rand history :P
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Post Post #110  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:35 pm

Smith do u want me to tell you the secret
If you're Macho and someone tries to rolestop you, you never realise you're being targeted for a kill, so your machismo never gets challenged

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Post Post #111  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:36 pm

but then it's not a secret :P
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Post Post #112  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:34 pm

In post 107, mhsmith0 wrote:What happens when you're scum in a game where the town ISN'T a gigantic collection of morons? And in those cases, what is your best recommendation for how to drive (or at least achieve) mislynches?


Town is always a gigantic collection of morons who will eat themselves alive. Don't get me wrong, there are many excellent town players who have instinctively good reads, solid analysis, and are persuasive. But all it takes is one bad townie and Town becomes a gigantic collection of morons. This is illustrated by the Sewage PrincipleTM: A barrel of sewage is still sewage no matter how much fine wine is added, and a barrel of the finest wine is turned to sewage by one ounce of sewage.

If you insist on making me offer advice on this mythical world where a non-moronic Town exists, here is one (impossible to pull off) approach: Form a townbloc with the entire scumteam and let the townies fight each other to get inside. They'll never see it coming unless they read it here first.

Or replace out due to IRL problems, leaving your partners to their inevitable loss, and /in to the next game you find.
Class is in session.

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Post Post #113  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:36 pm

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Post Post #114  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:39 pm

In post 112, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:Or replace out due to IRL problems, leaving your partners to their inevitable loss, and /in to the next game you find.

shit, I need to start doing this more :P
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Post Post #115  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:09 pm

Be more town than the townies and bus your buddies

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