'Unlocked' Mechanic

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Do you think this mechanic would be mafia or town favored?

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'Unlocked' Mechanic

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:06 am

Post by eagerSnake »

Imagine a game that had a mechanic where the thread is never locked

Or a game where anyone can post in the thread, even if they are not in the game, or if they have died

Of course this would mean you would have to have no dead/spectator thread and no spoilers as well

Do you think this mechanic would maf or town favored?
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:26 am

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do people still flip then?

if there's a strong player and killing them just treestumps them and confirms them as town that sounds town sided, and having a council of conftown to help decide a lylo seems like an advantage

also id imagine problems with allowing mafia to keep posting if lynched... their goal then just becomes lowering the quality of discussion which is pretty much done through spamming or trolling
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:33 am

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No reveal sounds like a good fix for the first issue
Second issue could still be a problem even if no reveal
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:02 am

Post by Infinity 324 »

This sounds pretty cool.

The first "issue" is not really an issue and can be resolved by less town PR's for example. No reveal also does it though.

The second issue would have to be resolved with a special exception for dead scum, or a special rule.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:13 am

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This has been done. It was a shit show because everyone PM'd half the site and 90% of the people posting weren't players. I don't remember the name of the game.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:18 am

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apart from the anyone who wasnt playing posting it would be an interesting mechanic as long as night play was mafia sided and conf towns were hard to find
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:39 am

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I like the idea of introducing new players throughout the game though
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:41 am

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In post 6, eagerSnake wrote:I like the idea of introducing new players throughout the game though
i would have it restricted at least though rather than unlimited.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:26 pm

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i remember playing in a 'party themed' mafia like this where anyone could drop by but weren't given a slot.

it was a mafia blowout because my homesite never grew out of loaded slots and nightplay and this was probably the one game where the town was almost entirely vanilla outside of open setups. i think the spectators did more harm than good but a determined spectator could ruin the game for scum. you'd had to enlist purposely annoying specs to have any sense of balance.

i've been thinking of a "town encryptor" role that would allow thread nighttalk. think that alone is ridiculously town-sided.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:27 pm

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more interesting: give all spectators a slot, vote, along with PT. make sure you call the PT the worst hydra ever.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:37 pm

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problem is that people will post dumb shit when they're not in the game
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:20 pm

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In post 0, eagerSnake wrote:Also, anyone can post in the thread, even if they are not in the game, or if they have died
wasn't that the gimmick behind Always On Mafia?

I remember it ended up with pretty much the entire site helping town because scum was obviously too afraid to out themselves to anyone on the site
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:27 pm

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This is definitly townided lol

its like 900 v 3
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:28 pm

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BUT you can make up rules for letting not-players to talk in game - somehow

and that might fix it
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:41 am

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My problem with this is that outside posters could influence town. I also don't really want a game where I have to sort through 100s of ego posts to isolate the players to get reads.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:45 am

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happy birthday TB :]
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:45 am

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Thanks frozen :)
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:22 pm

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In post 0, eagerSnake wrote:Imagine a game that had a mechanic where the thread is never locked
I mean, I've played games with Night chat allowed in thread. It changes the dynamics of the game quite a bit.
In post 1, Raskolnikov wrote:do people still flip then?

if there's a strong player and killing them just treestumps them and confirms them as town that sounds town sided, and having a council of conftown to help decide a lylo seems like an advantage

also id imagine problems with allowing mafia to keep posting if lynched... their goal then just becomes lowering the quality of discussion which is pretty much done through spamming or trolling
On part 1, I agree that making it a no reveal is most sensible.

On the issue of Scum shitposting, just make a post restriction for anyone who has died/isn't in the game so that they can't do so without being made neutral survivors, essentially auto-losing.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:24 am

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A game where a scum treestump can't shitpost is just... wrong...
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:28 am

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In post 6, eagerSnake wrote:I like the idea of introducing new players throughout the game though
Look up cephrir's Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia; which had a childbirth mechanic.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:22 pm

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MafiaManiac Does this and it works for them very well.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:02 am

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In post 20, LicketyQuickety wrote:MafiaManiac Does this and it works for them very well.
And by that I mean that they don't close the thread after Day Lynch, none of that other stuff that I am aware of, but they do have their own completely different take on how to play such as RID kills and claiming is frowned upon.
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