I was talking in scumchat about this movie I saw on Netflix recently called Circle. The basic premise (from wiki):
Fifty people wake up in a darkened room, arranged in two concentric circles around a black dome. Noises sound when they attempt to move or touch the others. When someone ignores the warning and leaves formation, a beam from the dome kills them. As the others panic, a man attempts to calm them. In mid-sentence, he is killed by the device. Thereafter, every two minutes, another person is killed. After several people die, they realize they can vote for who dies. When nobody votes, one is selected randomly.
The movie is literally just this - people talking, arguing, discussing, who should die next. It's fantastic and very much reminds me of the discussions that occur in games here.
There are actually a lot of times when I come across situations in movies or tv shows where I'm like, ok so it's basically mafia
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:24 am
by Killthestory
who dunnit specials
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:40 am
by Antihero
kinda sorta if you tilt ur head and squint
Spoiler:
the movie itself severely disappointed me though...
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:41 am
by Antihero
there's also a russian movie based on mafia but i haven't seen that one
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:00 am
by Psyche
death note is a source of inspiration for lots of people here
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:26 am
by Firebringer
In post 0, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:The movie is literally just this - people talking, arguing, discussing, who should die next. It's fantastic and very much reminds me of the discussions that occur in games here.
There are actually a lot of times when I come across situations in movies or tv shows where I'm like, ok so it's basically mafia
it also reminds me how far lurking can get you in a game.
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:50 am
by Postie
Probably not what you had in mind for this thread but the BBC has a panel show called
Would I Lie To You?
that feels pretty Mafia-ish in a lot of ways. It's fun to play along with at home. You start getting meta tells on some of the regular contestants after a while.
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:09 pm
by kuribo
In post 2, Antihero wrote:kinda sorta if you tilt ur head and squint
Spoiler:
the movie itself severely disappointed me though...
I liked it
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:35 am
by Randomnamechange
In post 6, Postie wrote:Probably not what you had in mind for this thread but the BBC has a panel show called
Would I Lie To You?
that feels pretty Mafia-ish in a lot of ways. It's fun to play along with at home. You start getting meta tells on some of the regular contestants after a while.
its not hugely like mafia but is a rly good show anyway that you should all watch
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:26 am
by MagnaofIllusion
The Mole series works a a sort of "Town versus Serial Killer" set-up ... one player motivated to sabatoge the other players and escape discovery.
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:59 pm
by LlamaFluff
Circle was a decent movie, but its better not knowing much about it going into it because it adds to general emotions of characters early on. A interesting part for discussion after watching it is
Spoiler:
Who actually are the antagonists and protagonists in the movie, if there even are any.
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:38 pm
by Accountant
In post 4, Psyche wrote:death note is a source of inspiration for lots of people here
Light would have gotten away with everything if he had just lurked instead of responding to L's challenges
In post 4, Psyche wrote:death note is a source of inspiration for lots of people here
Light would have gotten away with everything if he had just lurked instead of responding to L's challenges
Congratulations that's literally the whole point of the series
And I don't even watch anime
Except I saw Akira in high school
But I didn't understand it
But then again no one does
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:29 am
by Psyche
in the alternative storlyline where light just lurks, he doesn't have as much knowledge about or control over the course of the investigation, leaving him vulnerable in other ways
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:35 am
by kuribo
Well, the whole point of the story is that Light is an egotist who thinks he alone knows who should live and die in order to create a perfect world. He can't help but interject himself into the events because his ego won't allow it.
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:44 am
by Firebringer
In post 13, Psyche wrote:in the alternative storlyline where light just lurks, he doesn't have as much knowledge about or control over the course of the investigation, leaving him vulnerable in other ways
Who wrote this story?
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:58 am
by Accountant
In post 13, Psyche wrote:in the alternative storlyline where light just lurks, he doesn't have as much knowledge about or control over the course of the investigation, leaving him vulnerable in other ways
In post 13, Psyche wrote:in the alternative storlyline where light just lurks, he doesn't have as much knowledge about or control over the course of the investigation, leaving him vulnerable in other ways
In post 13, Psyche wrote:in the alternative storlyline where light just lurks, he doesn't have as much knowledge about or control over the course of the investigation, leaving him vulnerable in other ways
yah if accountant keeps reading high quality stuff like that there is hope for them yet
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:04 pm
by Accountant
Essentially the summary is that Death Note is a mafia game where there are 7 billion players and mafia autowins on Day 500(or whatever, to represent Kira taking over the world and everyone bowing down to him - we see the US and others doing this in canon). In that kinda game lurking is basically the best strategy
What was your interpretation of it? My interpretation was that Light's mistake was to do stuff that narrowed down the suspect list, such as using police information or that thingy shamingy with Lind Tailor
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:14 pm
by Psyche
it's a description of what he did wrong, not a prescription for what to do right
article says ideal play is constant misdirection
