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activity level is not a reliable scumtell

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:18 am

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stop scumreading people for posting when their name is said. stop it. it's a bad tell. it doesn't work. it never works.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:20 am

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equally stupid; stop scumreading people for not responding to pressure when they havent posted for awhile anyway.
if they showed up, you'd just accuse them of doing the former tell i mentioned. both are stupid.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:21 am

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also stop scumreading people for not immediately responding to your post when they were present right before you posted. no, it doesn't mean they definitely hid out in the scumthread and started asking for advice on how to respond. people have more to do that just mash refresh on the thread over and over and instantly respond to your crap, you blithering ignoramus.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:23 am

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this is a game where phases have a deadline of ~2 weeks. not being present for a half hour stretch of time is never reliably indicative of anything to do with their alignment ever you god damn meshuggeners.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:27 am

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asshat's guide to scumhunting

>find a slot that hasn't posted for at least half a day
>apply pressure to slot
>wait a couple hours

Did said player show up and respond at some point?
Yes: "SEE THIS MEANS THEY WERE READING THE THREAD AND ONLY RESPONDED WHEN FORCED THAT MEANS THEYRE LURKING THAT MEANS THEY MUST BE SCUM LETS LYNCH THEM."
No: "SEE THE PERSON IS AVOIDING RESPONDING TO PRESSURE THEYRE TRYING TO LURK IT OUT THEY MUST BE SCUM LET'S LYNCH THEM."

fucking brilliant, i tell you.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:30 am

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here's a tip. the only way activity level is ever ever ever alignment indicative is if you have an established, reliable meta of that specific player across many games. otherwise it's a useless thing to chase. there are a billion reasons a player is or isn't active. their alignment may be one of them, but you have literally no way of knowing unless there's an established pattern having to do with THAT ONE PLAYER.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:31 am

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thank u for your time.

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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:33 am

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People haven't realized yet that I can be active as scum or inactive as town for some reason.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:59 am

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:35 am

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nahdia septuple-posted in a thinly veiled attempt to appear very active for towncred

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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:39 am

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I agree with whatever it was rask said, clearly nahdia os obvscum

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:41 am

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On a more serious note, very high activity is USUALLY a town-tell, especially if said person is doing a bunch of stuff in a non-wolfy way. Beyond that, town or scum can very easily be medium to essentially zero activity, and as someone who's gotten pressured repeatedly (as town!) for "why isn't smith obvtown yet" and "why isn't smith tryharding yet" I have some symphathy to this.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:37 am

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Very high activity and effort (and this part is important) over the course of the game is a towntell because it's easier to lose motivation as scum. Otherwise I generally agree.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:06 am

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I know most activity tells are NAI, however don't leave someone in a null spot, make them readable.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:05 pm

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In post 12, Infinity 324 wrote:Very high activity and effort (and this part is important) over the course of the game is a towntell because it's easier to lose motivation as scum. Otherwise I generally agree.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:06 pm

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I am always town when I am active.

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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:14 pm

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I've seen several games where one or more of the scumteam are the most active members in the entire game. They use the high activity as a way to lead town and it's usually very effective.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:06 pm

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In post 5, Nahdia wrote:here's a tip. the only way activity level is ever ever ever alignment indicative is if you have an established, reliable meta of that specific player across many games. otherwise it's a useless thing to chase. there are a billion reasons a player is or isn't active. their alignment may be one of them, but you have literally no way of knowing unless there's an established pattern having to do with THAT ONE PLAYER.
Even with the meta to back it, it's still far from a guarantee. Things change in people's lives all the time and those things can change activity. I was very active as a bored college student with nothing better to do. Then I got an apartment without internet and a 40 hour work week and was less active. Then I switched jobs and had more free time and my activity came in bursts. None of those changes made me town or scum in a game, but active Kmd was always townread where less active Kmd would get scum read. Without fail. Every time. Even if activity wasn't the stated reason for the read, that's the way it went.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:42 pm

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In post 11, mhsmith0 wrote:On a more serious note, very high activity is USUALLY a town-tell, especially if said person is doing a bunch of stuff in a non-wolfy way. Beyond that, town or scum can very easily be medium to essentially zero activity, and as someone who's gotten pressured repeatedly (as town!) for "why isn't smith obvtown yet" and "why isn't smith tryharding yet" I have some symphathy to this.

it's a player tell, not a town tell



if i'm ever scum against you, feel free to call me town based on my activity level tho
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:43 pm

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In post 18, kuribo wrote:
In post 11, mhsmith0 wrote:On a more serious note, very high activity is USUALLY a town-tell, especially if said person is doing a bunch of stuff in a non-wolfy way. Beyond that, town or scum can very easily be medium to essentially zero activity, and as someone who's gotten pressured repeatedly (as town!) for "why isn't smith obvtown yet" and "why isn't smith tryharding yet" I have some symphathy to this.

it's a player tell, not a town tell



if i'm ever scum against you, feel free to call me town based on my activity level tho
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 12, Infinity 324 wrote:easier to lose motivation as scum.

unless you prefer being scum




being town is the worst
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 19, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 18, kuribo wrote:
In post 11, mhsmith0 wrote:On a more serious note, very high activity is USUALLY a town-tell, especially if said person is doing a bunch of stuff in a non-wolfy way. Beyond that, town or scum can very easily be medium to essentially zero activity, and as someone who's gotten pressured repeatedly (as town!) for "why isn't smith obvtown yet" and "why isn't smith tryharding yet" I have some symphathy to this.

it's a player tell, not a town tell



if i'm ever scum against you, feel free to call me town based on my activity level tho
Especially if I'm a serial killer :P
well then just kill me n1, anything less is an insult
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:53 pm

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In post 20, kuribo wrote:
In post 12, Infinity 324 wrote:easier to lose motivation as scum.

unless you prefer being scum




being town is the worst
Lol

Im literally the exact opposite. I like solving, dislike lying. Also my first like five scum games I got trashed over and over again, taught me to dislike it :P
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:00 pm

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I love being scum

I dont like how people get free townvred for spamposting
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:08 pm

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In post 14, McMenno wrote:
In post 12, Infinity 324 wrote:Very high activity and effort (and this part is important) over the course of the game is a towntell because it's easier to lose motivation as scum. Otherwise I generally agree.
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