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Weekend Inactivity
I've noticed a lot of people who are consistently V/LA on weekends. While this is fine in principle there are also prod timers and it often overlaps with general inactivity and I've been stymied as to how to deal with it as a mod. Would appreciate any input.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Alisae
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Count weekend V/LAs as part of the prod timer. If they can't find enough time to make even 1 post a weekend(assuming a 48 hour timer) then they might not be the right fit for the game anyway. Seriously, all they have to do is tap out a quick "hey all, so and so is still scum, plz lynch" while they're heading to work or the beach or whatever it is that makes them V/LA.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I feel it's the responsibility of the player to post their V/LA but unless the game is some sort of blitz, being gone for 48-hours tends not to affect the game."and now i am TURNED ON AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!" - KainTepes
I'm regularly V/LA on the weekends. If this is the weekend and I've not said otherwise, please assume I'm on V/LA.- davesaz
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I go camping where there is no service at all, not even 1x. I typically announce it though.
Other possible reasons are you have your kids on weekend, or are a kid and don't want to miss time with mom/dad, or are not allowed electronics, etc.
I would never find reason to doubt RL. Yeah it's a game that one joins voluntarily, and it does affect other people, but we should all chill.
In my modded games I put "weekends count as 1 day" in the ruleset, though I'm also pretty complacent about prods anyway.
It's also easy enough to deduct from the prod counter if you forget someone is V/LA (or one of the no weekend folk) and send a prod anyway.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord- Accountant
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Weekends count as 1 day is a perfectly acceptable compromise.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I'm not generally available on weekends. I spend 60+ hours in front of a computer M-F, so if I don't sit in front of one on Saturday or Sunday, I'm OK with that.
I do try to post on Friday, and am almost always back on Monday, so don't worry overly much about the 48 hour prod timer.
If I take longer, I try to set actual V/LA.
When modding, I check in on weekends because I owe vote counts, and it's an obligation I took on, so I make time, since I get that lots of people post on weekends.
However, I will usually send out prods Friday, then take action or new prods on Monday. This gives weekenders what they need, but also gives them Friday or Monday to make a post.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.- McMenno
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Here's an idea I came up with
Standard set 2 prods allowed per day phase but you get replaced if you have to be prodded twice 2 consecutive day phases.
OR you may choose for a weekend to count as 1 day but then you can only be prodded once per day phase.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- TheRealGin-N-Tonic
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Is it really that big of an issue tho?
10/14 days is 70% amount of time where everyone can theoretically be active.
Also with the standard playerlist, you'd usually have at max 3 players who do that so there is still over half the playerlist that can actively post.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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In the instance that brought this up Pere was prodded several times outside of weekends as well and I don't want to be making it easier for scum/town to lurk games out.
But if it's a continual 'I can't post weekends but want to be active outside of that' I am trying to work that out2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Errantparabola
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in general, i think we should expect people who go V/LA to post the day after the V/LA ends.
otherwise they should have declared for an extra day.
so people who V/LA on weekends should post on mondays. shrug. maybe not.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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I don't know why you're trying to compromise things.In post 10, RadiantCowbells wrote:Here's an idea I came up with
Standard set 2 prods allowed per day phase but you get replaced if you have to be prodded twice 2 consecutive day phases.
OR you may choose for a weekend to count as 1 day but then you can only be prodded once per day phase.
If you're a mod, you make the rules for activity."and now i am TURNED ON AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!" - KainTepes
I'm regularly V/LA on the weekends. If this is the weekend and I've not said otherwise, please assume I'm on V/LA.- Ircher
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I stole this rule from Gin. I like it.In post 6, Accountant wrote:Weekends count as 1 day is a perfectly acceptable compromise.- TheRealGin-N-Tonic
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Wait what >_>In post 16, Lycanfire wrote:
I stole this rule from Gin. I like it.In post 6, Accountant wrote:Weekends count as 1 day is a perfectly acceptable compromise.
What did you steal and when?“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Also if anyone backtalks you about it, modkill them too
And if anyone fails to speak up against your abuse of power, clearly they cannot be trusted and must be modkilledJoin me on my quest to play every NES game! Some of them are awful.
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Is that opinion driven from the point of view of the person being prodded / replaced, or from the active players view?
How would you define a flaker?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord- Kmd4390
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Yeah, that's a great definition, but how do you tell the difference between mostly flaked and flaked?
The reason I was asking about point of view is about relative impact of different approaches. I agree it would totally suck to come up against hitting a fixed limit on number of prods and finding yourself replaced when you meant to come back, especially if one or more of them should not count due to a VLA or scheduled off days or clerical error. On the other hand it inconveniences at least 3 other people (2 players plus a mod) to have to wait for the chronically inactive to arrive and progress the game state. So a moderate amount of harm to one player vs. a smaller chronic individual harm to each of potentially 30+ people.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord - davesaz
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