Top Newbie mistakes?

[rulerBob8]

I've played on other sites and seen some pretty bad ones like:
-Fakeclaiming Mafia
-Claiming Miller turned SK turned Miller

this was me, and i was telling the truth. It was a weird game

-Claiming Townie day 1

[wgeurts]

I hammered town with my first post in a 30 pagish day 1, just as they were about to wagon scum. I then proceded to get lynched the following day.

[Nexus]

believing that 'scum wouldn't flake out' so voting the active townie in LYLO.

[rulerBob8]

I hammered town with my first post in a 30 pagish day 1, just as they were about to wagon scum. I then proceded to get lynched the following day.

You think that's bad? I'm referred to as Captain Hammer because I hammered a guy 12 hours into the day, on a site where day is 48 hours.

[wgeurts]

I hammered town with my first post in a 30 pagish day 1, just as they were about to wagon scum. I then proceded to get lynched the following day.

You think that's bad? I'm referred to as Captain Hammer because I hammered a guy 12 hours into the day, on a site where day is 48 hours.

Was it your first post though, and on the counter-wagon to scum?
Ah, memories.

[Ircher]

believing that 'scum wouldn't flake out' so voting the active townie in LYLO.

As well as the inverse: believing scum are always the flakers/lurkers.

[Alisae]

Relying on the wiki
That is a big newbie mistake.

[Zachrulez]

I've played on other sites and seen some pretty bad ones like:
-Fakeclaiming Mafia

That one is usually a big one that gets you dead fast regardless of truth.

believing that 'scum wouldn't flake out' so voting the active townie in LYLO.

Newbies in lylo and players in general that don't get to lylo much tend to act impulsively based on the picture they've framed of how they game is turning and never bother to examine why they're in lylo... alive.

[Equinox]

-Fakeclaiming Mafia

Any fake claims, really.

[Alchemist21]

Relying on the wiki
That is a big newbie mistake.

In what way? I used the wiki pretty heavily when I was new and I don't think it was a mistake. The only way I can see people misusing it is by using outdated tells on it (and those pages even have a disclaimer that tells get outdated).

EDIT: Remembered an actual noob mistake I used to make - getting starstruck. If someone had a rep for being a good scumhunter it made me tend to Townread them and want to help them without properly trying to sort them. That's a bad trap to fall into.

[Cheetory6]

I hammered town with my first post in a 30 pagish day 1, just as they were about to wagon scum. I then proceded to get lynched the following day.

Hi!

[Creature]

Thinking helpfulness is equivalent to towniness.

[Wisdom]

Thinking helpfulness is equivalent to towniness.

And high activity

[Raskolnikov]

Top 10 Mistakes You Didn't Even Realize You Made As A Newbie

Anyways the biggest issues I've found were generally whenever I've made a "There's no way scum would do X" judgement. There's no way both scum would replace out super early (my 2nd newbie game). There's no way scum would fakeclaim this creatively (multiple times). There's no way scum would push their own lynch in some sort of crazy bluff (once). So basically, there's no substitute for due diligence on any slot.

[Geralt of Rivia]

Breadcrumbing a power role that you are, day one.

Got me killed in my first game (now over)

Only reason I did it was because I saw the rule on it saying breadcrumbing was allowable. It's likely that the right people will see it, but bet on the wrong people seeing it for sure. It's something I will NEVER do again

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Relying on the wiki
That is a big newbie mistake.

-Fakeclaiming Mafia

Any fake claims, really.

Top 10 Mistakes You Didn't Even Realize You Made As A Newbie

Anyways the biggest issues I've found were generally whenever I've made a "There's no way scum would do X" judgement. There's no way both scum would replace out super early (my 2nd newbie game). There's no way scum would fakeclaim this creatively (multiple times). There's no way scum would push their own lynch in some sort of crazy bluff (once). So basically, there's no substitute for due diligence on any slot.

These.

[BigYoshiFan]

Townreading the people who townread you, or maybe that's just me.

[Randomnamechange]

not claiming miller in their first post when scum
see this far too often tbh

[DrumBeats]

-Fakeclaiming Mafia

Any fake claims, really.

Fake claim gambits win games if done correctly, especially in games with OC

[Alchemist21]

not claiming miller in their first post when scum
see this far too often tbh

Aren't there a lot of people who like to Policy Lynch Miller claims though?

[mastina]

not claiming miller in their first post when scum
see this far too often tbh

Aren't there a lot of people who like to Policy Lynch Miller claims though?

None.

[TesXX]

believing that 'scum wouldn't flake out' so voting the active townie in LYLO.

As well as the inverse: believing scum are always the flakers/lurkers.

believing that 'scum wouldn't flake out' so voting the active townie in LYLO.

As well as the inverse: believing scum are always the flakers/lurkers.

believing that 'scum wouldn't flake out' so voting the active townie in LYLO.

As well as the inverse: believing scum are always the flakers/lurkers.

ACTIVE lurking can be a scumtell, but being inactive on its own doesn't mean crap at all.

[Equinox]

Fake claim gambits win games if done correctly, especially in games with OC

There is no "done correctly". Those gambits fail more often than they succeed. Is it really worth it to destroy ten games to have that singular moment of glory? That's an arbitrary ratio, but I've seen more than my fair share of people thinking that they know what they were doing only to be one of the most destructive players on their team.

[Randomnamechange]

not claiming miller in their first post when scum
see this far too often tbh

Aren't there a lot of people who like to Policy Lynch Miller claims though?

there are people who like to call for it but it rarely happens
also ideally you do this while being a godfather

[DrumBeats]

Fake claim gambits win games if done correctly, especially in games with OC

There is no "done correctly". Those gambits fail more often than they succeed. Is it really worth it to destroy ten games to have that singular moment of glory? That's an arbitrary ratio, but I've seen more than my fair share of people thinking that they know what they were doing only to be one of the most destructive players on their team.

As town, they are very situational, but they can help. You have to be smart about it if you want it to work. An example would be if you're a 1x bulletproof in a neighborhood, claim a PR to them to try to bait a kill. If you're hit early you can likely deduce that your neighborhood has scum in it. If the game has free OC chat (which I think is rare on this site, but where I used to play it was the norm), if the cop has contacted/cleared you, you can then fake claim cop (after discussing it with them of course) to test the waters with people and protect the actual cop.

As scum though, a well thought out fakeclaim can all but clear you, especially in games where there is a distinct town leader who you can pocket. It still works best when OC is involved to some degree, but being good at fakeclaiming is an important skill for a scumteam.