Geriatric Players Club

[Alisae]

If you have the playerlist that doesn't post a lot but is extremely active, then there isn't a need for the geriatric ruleset.

Basicly, if Geriatrics want to play with Geriatrics, the need for the ruleset is negated.
If newer players WANT to play with Geriatrics, then there is a need for the ruleset.

Idunno if what I am saying makes sense but it makes sense to me in my head.

[Mulch]

If you have the playerlist that doesn't post a lot but is extremely active, then there isn't a need for the geriatric ruleset.

Basicly, if Geriatrics want to play with Geriatrics, the need for the ruleset is negated.
If newer players WANT to play with Geriatrics, then there is a need for the ruleset.

Idunno if what I am saying makes sense but it makes sense to me in my head.

I understand what you are saying.

Consider 6 classifications
- Players that play/want geriatric but are engaged as good (Tier 1)
- Players that play/want geriatric but just lurk (Tier 2)
- Players that don't mind Geriatric, but are engaged and "good" (Tier 3)
- Players that don't mind Geriatric, but are "bad/disengaged"(Tier 4)
- Players that hate/do not play geriatric, but woulden't really ruin games/ are "good" (Tier 5)
- Players that hate/do not play geriatric and would hate it/ruin game (Tier 6)

Game full of 1=Ruleset not needed, would have a great game anyway

Game full of 1+2=Ruleset is bad, because lurking really hurts in geriatric games especially

Game full of 1+2+3= Ruleset is good, because it draws in Tier 3 that Tier 1 would not play with.

The first situation in which the rulset is good is when non-geriatric players are actually playing.

Game full of 1+2+3+4= Would say a straight null, hard to tell here.

Games full of 1+2+3+4+5=Almost non existent, because 5 would never join. Nevertheless, although low in frequency, the rulset would have a positive impact because it draws in 5.

Games full of 1+2+3+4+5+6=Complete Disasters, probably. Geriatric ruleset does nothing.

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and I'm too lazy to do the 6! combinations, but basically;

Tier 1 don't need it
Tier 2 it's bad
Tier 3 it's good
Tier 4 it's bad
Tier 5 it's good but infrequent
Tier 6 it's horrendous

[xRECKONERx]

the issue seems to be people signing up for geriatric games who have no intention of staying active

Do you realize the irony of this

The very POINT of this is to create a haven for people that aren't active and can now lurk without consequences or repercussions.

(right)

If it's not, if you look at it pragmatically that's gonna be the result

Unless you have the PERFECT playerlist of people that don't post a lot, but are extremely active

I would say the problem of lurking is exacerbated by the ruleset.

why are you here?

there's a middle ground between "lurk all the time" and "spam post 900 pages"

gtfo with your false dichotomy nonsense

[xRECKONERx]

im tier 1
and i absolutely need geriatric because nothing makes me want to kill myself like spamposting

[Kmd4390]

Mulch I can't tell what tier I am lol

[Ranmaru]

what tier am I

[Alisae]

Honestly I think /in-invitational or whatever it was called is better because it'll allow for geriatrics to organize games with each other without a need for a ruleset and do much more for the site.

[Pine]

the issue seems to be people signing up for geriatric games who have no intention of staying active

Do you realize the irony of this

The very POINT of this is to create a haven for people that aren't active and can now lurk without consequences or repercussions.

(right)

If it's not, if you look at it pragmatically that's gonna be the result

Unless you have the PERFECT playerlist of people that don't post a lot, but are extremely active

I would say the problem of lurking is exacerbated by the ruleset.

why are you here?

there's a middle ground between "lurk all the time" and "spam post 900 pages"

gtfo with your false dichotomy nonsense

Thank you.

gtfo if you're going to be Mr. Negativity, Mulch.

[Mulch]

It’s called being realistic

And you guys don’t know what a false dichotomy is because I didn’t make one

[Mathdino]

I don't think Mulch is being extremely unfair. There has, thus far, been one geriatric game that hasn't essentially been determined by lurking players or a lurking mod.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alternative option: Make activity requirements harsher and blacklist lurkers

Welp!

I'm going on a lot of blacklists then...


Also, shouldn't most of this be in a Geriatric Discussion thread?
Like, if we've stopped caring then cool. Just asking

I think the main purpose of "that" thread was for people to bitch and moan

[Gamma Emerald]

Mulch I can't tell what tier I am lol

I know I'd be tier 3

[xRECKONERx]

It’s called being realistic

And you guys don’t know what a false dichotomy is because I didn’t make one

What raging hard on do you have that makes you want to post constantly in a thread for a bunch of people who just wanna play games at their place without spam nonsense?

Like what the fuck

Get a life

[xRECKONERx]

So...

3 games so far?

1: mod apathy kills the game with an engaged town pushing for replacements
2: town wins
3: town apathy results in a town loss

such data very wow much statistical significance

[xRECKONERx]

I don't have my statistical significance calculator handy buy I'mma guess three instances of completely different things happening probably doesn't pass the test huh

Much realism

[TheButtonmen]

mulchs entire thing is aggressively harassing people about things hes not even involved with recks no point arguing just toss him on ignore he wont stop regardless of how much you ask or argue with him

id be curious to see how geriatrics plays out in much smaller games like 4-7p micros which have a certain inherent speed to them to see if it does warp how games play out

geriatric vengefuls could be interesting

[Mulch]

It’s called being realistic

And you guys don’t know what a false dichotomy is because I didn’t make one

What raging hard on do you have that makes you want to post constantly in a thread for a bunch of people who just wanna play games at their place without spam nonsense?

Like what the fuck

Get a life

You're the only one insulting and being aggresive, not me. Try to just act like a decent person, it's not like I'm doing anything wrong . I just wanna talk

[Mathdino]

mulchs entire thing is aggressively harassing people about things hes not even involved with recks no point arguing just toss him on ignore he wont stop regardless of how much you ask or argue with him

holy shit you guys

mulch has said nothing personal or harassy since i necro'd the thread

like i've been the first person to tell him to fuck off in other threads but this is way disproportionate retribution for mulch's comments so far, which neither of you have actually seriously addressed

also *I* was the one who's trying to make a point out of the 3 games so far

because i played in 2 of them

so if you're gonna be aggressive about that be aggressive at me

because my name IS on the list in the OP

[Kublai Khan]

Mulch has been asked a half dozen times to go away from this thread for being an asshole. It's so weird that his views aren't being welcomed. It's such a mystery. Gosh. So much mystery.

[TheButtonmen]

Mulch does this in everything I've had the misfortune of interacting with him in, he's one of the very few people I actively want removed from MS. He's an ass who feels the need to follow people around interjecting himself into everything (up to and including things that were literally created to avoid dealing with him) and just won't stop.

You don't harass people, stalk people off MS, organize other people to harass people or continue when people repeatedly ask you to stop. Why the fuck would we be aggressive to you, you haven't done anything at all bad?

[Mulch]

Mulch does this in everything I've had the misfortune of interacting with him in, he's one of the very few people I actively want removed from MS. He's an ass who feels the need to follow people around interjecting himself into everything (up to and including things that were literally created to avoid dealing with him) and just won't stop.

You don't harass people, stalk people off MS, organize other people to harass people or continue when people repeatedly ask you to stop. Why the fuck would we be aggressive to you, you haven't done anything at all bad?

Yo I have no idea why you hate me, or what these accusations are about, but this is the second time I’ve asked you to stop insulting me

You did it in site chat y/d and now here

I got no idea why you are obsessed with me

Maybe ignore my posts? I’ve got no beef with you, but you obviously dislike what I say

[Mulch]

Mulch has been asked a half dozen times to go away from this thread for being an asshole. It's so weird that his views are being welcomed. It's such a mystery. Gosh. So much mystery.

I don’t really think explaining my thoughts on this is being an asshole

I mean, even if it WAS none of my business, people comment on things they aren’t involved in all the time

But I personally think this stuff is adversely affecting the site as a whole

And I even took time to really flesh out my thoughts/go into detail/do analysis on why recently

/shrug

I don’t really want to listen to people that are being abusive/rude/mean anyway

[TheButtonmen]

I dislike having you around because you're shitty to people I like and keep on harassing them even after I've seen them ask you to stop because you view every interaction as some kind of pointless fight you have to win and you completely disregard boundaries to do so, it's off putting and makes you easily the least pleasant person I can think of on MS now that we got rid of RC/UN.

Like this was literally a thread made for people who didn't want to play with people like yourself and you've spammed your way to almost having the most posts here. A thread were people just wanted to connect with people with similar tastes to themselves and organize some fun games you've kicked in the door, shit on the rug and knocked over the punch bowl. You've repeatedly refused to leave when asked and now you're acting offended people don't like having you around, grow the fuck up. How fucking dare we have fun in a way you don't agree with, how dare we enjoy each others company and play silly games on the internet improperly eh?

You do keep on doing this in every situation I've seen you in, we will treat you with respect when you treat you actually start to treat us with some.

[TheButtonmen]

This didn't need to be a fight Mulch, this could have just been some scummers organizing some games and having a good time with parts of the community that aren't around as much anymore.

Thanks for shitting on it.

[Mulch]

Yo, let's take it to PMs. (Or you can take it if you wanna say more stuff, I prob won't). No need to clutter up the thread