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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:57 am

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Aj The Epic is the only person who seems like they'd run that, based on their avatar.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:16 am

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In post 123, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 112, Ircher wrote:
In post 0, Nero Cain wrote:Dear mods,

It has come to my attention that some of you still do vote counts in non-descending order. This is ugly, hard to read and lazy. Please correct this error at your earliest convenience. To those mods that already correctly use descending order in vote counts, I applaud you and think you guys are the best people on this site.


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That's a lot of extra work...
In post 113, Ginngie wrote:no it's not, cut and paste is 3 seconds of work
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Try doing it on a tablet (like I used to do for the first year and a half that I was on the site...)

Then tell me that you can do it in 3 seconds... On a computer, fair enough -- but then there's tradition.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:13 pm

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If you don't mod on a computer then dont
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:32 pm

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I can't afford a tablet so I guess I'm the one that's pwned. :cry:
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:36 am

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In post 127, Ginngie wrote:If you don't mod on a computer then dont
I've modded multiple games on a tablet including a large theme. A computer is by no means a requirement.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:39 am

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In post 129, Ircher wrote:
In post 127, Ginngie wrote:If you don't mod on a computer then dont
I've modded multiple games on a tablet including a large theme. A computer is by no means a requirement.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:40 pm

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In post 129, Ircher wrote:
In post 127, Ginngie wrote:If you don't mod on a computer then dont
I've modded multiple games on a tablet including a large theme. A computer is by no means a requirement.
you good sir are a legend

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In post 130, Ginngie wrote:
In post 129, Ircher wrote:
In post 127, Ginngie wrote:If you don't mod on a computer then dont
I've modded multiple games on a tablet including a large theme. A computer is by no means a requirement.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:37 am

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Who needs votecounts, man, eh? Let the players snowball the votecount on top of the posts containing the vote, alright? They only need to quote the previous one, strike out their previous vote, -1 the number of votes on the player they were voting, add their name to the back of the wagon on the player they are voting, hmm? and +1 the number of votes on that player, you know?

Twould be great if everyone'd hyperlink the vote of the previous voter, so that the votecount can look something like this, man.


@@@@: Nero Cain - , Plotinus , , mastina, vonflare, Alisae,
@@ mastina - , , keyenpeydee, Nero Cain
Not Voting (2): Lang Buddha, Cheetory6

With 8 alive it take 5 to lynch
Deadline



Alisae VOTE: vonflare


@ vonflare - Alisae
@@@ Nero Cain - , Plotinus , , mastina, vonflare, ,
@@ mastina - , , keyenpeydee, Nero Cain
Not Voting (2): Lang Buddha, Cheetory6

With 8 alive it take 5 to lynch
Deadline

Because reasons
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:50 am

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In post 132, Lang Buddha wrote:Not Voting (1): Lang Buddha
this is prob scum
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:55 pm

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Lang Buddha VOTE: Nero Cain

@ vonflare - Alisae
@@@@ Nero Cain - , Plotinus , , mastina, vonflare, , , Lang Buddha
@@ mastina - , , keyenpeydee, Nero Cain
Not Voting (1): Cheetory6

With 8 alive it take 5 to lynch
Deadline

L-1
, man. Better start claiming, eh?
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:05 am

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That is way too much info, I also think basic vote counts are enough, i was very surprised I once read a game and the mod said the game was at lylo, that is way too much info.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:36 pm

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I like to do what Uite does.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:25 am

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In post 89, Nexus wrote:
If you want VCA
do it yourself

If you want Vote History
look at it yourself

If you want to see how wagons have changed over time
DO IT YOURSELF


My job as moderator is to ensure that the VCs are prompt, accurate and as unobtrusive as possible. My job as moderator is to ensure that the first post is up to date, the second post has rules, the third post has the game start and that is it.

Anything else is excessive, unnecessary, and is more mod intervention than necessary.
I have the same worry about mod interference but I take it in the other direction. Whether you like it or not, a moderator constantly makes judgement calls on when they should post vote counts. Do I need to do it before this episode I'm watching, or can I do it after? Is the game so active I need to sneak one in at work? "Prompt" is a subjective call and I know everyone's alignment, so there's always the worry my subconscious is pulling for one side vs the other. That's the reason I include vote count "ghosts", which a lot of people don't like. It's impossible for my vote count spacing to fail to include a vote - every single vote cast will be represented in my vote counts, even if that vote was only valid in the space between vote counts. (I do only count the last vote in a
post
, obviously.)

So yes, my vote counts can look pretty busy:

VC 82 (Major Day 1, VC 44)


(5)
Titus:
Espeonage, Cheetory6, GuyInFreezer, vezokpiraka, Untrod Tripod [L-5]
(4)
Aronis:
Gammagooey, Shadoweh, TellTaleHeart, Titus
(2)
singersigner:
mastin2, Aronis
(Untrod Tripod)

(2)
Espeonage:
ActionDan, ChannelDelibird
(1)
Untrod Tripod:
Oversoul
(Titus)

(1)
Shadoweh:
singersigner
(0)
mastin2:
(TellTaleHeart)

(0)
DeasVail:
(TellTaleHeart)


(3)
Not Voting:
Formerfish, DeasVail, Bulbazak
(ChannelDelibird)


With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday, April 25th, at 9PM CST.

Major Day One Deadline(expired on 2015-04-25 20:00:00)


But notice here that between vote counts, TellTaleHeart moved her vote from mastin2 (who it was on last vote count) to DeasVail, and then to Aronis. If I don't have ghosts, then whether that DeasVail vote is officially documented in a VC comes down to when I happen to take the VC. The timing in which I take VCs is up to my personal discretion, and subconsciously I know who has what alignment, so I'd rather not have that vector to influence the game.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:10 am

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I find the strikeouts really ugly and they confuse my lizard brain
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:15 am

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I actually think hitogoroshi's mindset is really functional
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:20 am

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I just give people the kind of vc I would want/expect as a player.

I'd like to know what the votes are currently at.

Vla prods and replacements are cool to include to save on unnecessary mod posts.

Agree that putting votes in chronological order should go without saying.

Also weirdly enough I kinda have caught myself gaming the timing of vc posts before, not with any real sort of weight put into it but it does sorta make you think all the same.

Like if there's a quick flashwagon and then somebody is all like "hammer hammer hammer" then mod posts a votecount, sort of an extreme example but you get what I'm saying. Which is why mods who post more vcs are not only good in my book but also can keep those kind of thoughts from players at bay. Having an auto-page topper vc thingy is the ultimate neutral but I think that I like having that human touch to modding and games I play in.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:57 pm

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In post 140, grapes wrote:I just give people the kind of vc I would want as a player.
This is what I do but what I want as a player is ridiculous, so I never ever would expect any sane mod to do what I do. :P (I specifically said to nancy/Jae when they backed my two games up "YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT". They did anyway. :P)
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