Love,
Nero Cain.
but isn't that for the players to look up instead of being spoon fed info?
Speaking of which: at some point I don't know when, I actually used to maintain the wagon chronological order in the Changes From Votecount section, while having the largest-wagon format be the default for the main VC.
I do this ^
My "Players who have BEEN Voted" section acts a lot like this, though it has a slight weakness in that it records the votes for that player across the whole day, without regard to the current wagon. (I WOULD link to votes in either the Changes section and/or the normal Vote section, but post tags are currently mutually exclusive with color tags, using links instead of post tags is too much work even for me, and rendering the color of players' alignments is something players typically value more when looking at the wagons.)In post 8, keyenpeydee wrote:I do this ^
I think it helps the players for info and also me to not mess up the votes. It's not really a hassle tbh unless people kept on changing their votes.
The issue here is that on mobile it makes it impossible to fiddle with votecounts if you want to single something outIn post 8, keyenpeydee wrote:I do this ^
I think it helps the players for info and also me to not mess up the votes. It's not really a hassle tbh unless people kept on changing their votes.
It isn't! For what it's worth I'd never intentionally sacrifice quantity for quality, i.e. refuse to give a basic votecount for the sake of making the votecount be perfect. Players need votecounts more than they need perfect votecounts, more than they need pagetop votecounts, etc.In post 10, Nero Cain wrote:I guess in a way it's nice and stuff to get extras but I don't really feel like it'sneeded.
I agree with this. I'll provide cute images of penguins (because they're awesome) and a reminder of V/LAs (more for myself so I don't necessarily prod), but anything more than the actual vote count at the time should be left to the players.In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote:Unpopular opinion: Mods who do more than just list who has how many votes (include "0" votes, include links, show where votes have moved, etc) are influencing the game in a way that they should not.
This is information that is useful and available to all players if they actually want to look into it. You are doing something that other players do in an attempt to scumhunt or an attempt to push mislynches. If you are helping a player concoct a case by giving them that information, its too much.
The job of the mod when making a vote count is to say "This is the current vote count." not "This is the current vote count. This is also when each player moved their vote. This is also who each player was voting." Doing a lot as a mod is a good thing. When those things include gathering information some players like to use, you are influencing the game by providing them what they should have to research.
I disagree with this.In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote:Unpopular opinion: Mods who do more than just list who has how many votes (include "0" votes, include links, show where votes have moved, etc) are influencing the game in a way that they should not.
This is information that is useful and available to all players if they actually want to look into it. You are doing something that other players do in an attempt to scumhunt or an attempt to push mislynches. If you are helping a player concoct a case by giving them that information, its too much.
The job of the mod when making a vote count is to say "This is the current vote count." not "This is the current vote count. This is also when each player moved their vote. This is also who each player was voting." Doing a lot as a mod is a good thing. When those things include gathering information some players like to use, you are influencing the game by providing them what they should have to research.
You underestimate the number of people who use it without posting about using it.In post 21, Firebringer wrote:I think the number of people who do VCA on site can be counted on one hand and so i always find it weird mastina gives so much VCA info in vcs when so few use it.