Question regarding true victory/mafia parity
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Question regarding true victory/mafia parity
What happens in the following scenario?
(This was a role madness game)
There was a town doctor (self saving allowed, consecutive night saving allowed) with a mafia godfather and another townie alive at F3.
The doctor had a special ability which says:
You may guess a player to be lynched the next day, or guess no lynch, if you guess correctly, you get a 1-shot random ability.
The mafia godfather and the doctor proceeds to no lynch. The mafia godfather kills the other townie, while the doctor self-saved.
So this leaves the mafia godfather and the doctor alive at the end of the game.
In the mafia wincon, it says to eliminate all town.
(I was the town doc, the mod apparently endgamed me)
Everyone in the game is saying thats not how the mechanics work, including the mafia members.- mhsmith0
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"Everyone else" is almost certainly correct.
Typically mafia wincon is:
Parity is achieved or impossible to prevent
Eliminating all townies is achieved or impossible to prevent
In the situation you described, elimination of all townies (eventually) was impossible to prevent. Even if you had, say, a 1-shot vig ability, then unless the game allowed you to doc AND use the 1-shot simultaneously (which would be the epitome of awful design if you can do that AND self-heal indefinitely), scum could shoot you and just have everyone die and therefore win per their wincon.
Probably the question remains of why you'd allow a no lynch in LYLO to go through unless you had been VERY certain of the endgame mechanics; if the mod had misled you about how taht works, that's on the mod. If you just guessed wrong, that's on you.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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In that case you vaguely sort of have an appeal basis, except that you pretty much ALWAYS should have checked with the game host before you allowed no lynch in LYLO.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?- Zachrulez
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You should have won the game. If you no-lynch + self target and call no lynch you will eventually get a 1-shot ability that can kill the godfather, while the godfather can literally do nothing.
That was a town win, for sure. Mod was a complete fool to end-game you. The guy literally used a game design he/she doesn't fully understand. What a fucking jokes LOL.- Zachrulez
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I ask the questions inside the questions.
I suppose the mindset of trying to win the game through night actions is how one reaches the point of asking mechanic questions of why they didn't win when they shouldn't really have won. If you're counting on a bad lylo setup to save you after you screw up lylo, you are probably playing in a terminally busted game. - Zachrulez
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