I'm sorry but if a player can't participate a decent amount in any given 48 or 72-hour spell, they actually don't have time to play, and they shouldn't have signed up. Having a set-up where players only have to participate every few days, openly encourages lazy play.
this seems like an opinion type thing
that we clearly disagree on
Then surely the phase lengths should be totally up to the Mods for each game?
I'm sorry but if a player can't participate a decent amount in any given 48 or 72-hour spell, they actually don't have time to play, and they shouldn't have signed up. Having a set-up where players only have to participate every few days, openly encourages lazy play.
You're assuming people only post every couple of days.
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I'm sorry but if a player can't participate a decent amount in any given 48 or 72-hour spell, they actually don't have time to play, and they shouldn't have signed up. Having a set-up where players only have to participate every few days, openly encourages lazy play.
this seems like an opinion type thing
that we clearly disagree on
Then surely the phase lengths should be totally up to the Mods for each game?
I'm sorry but if a player can't participate a decent amount in any given 48 or 72-hour spell, they actually don't have time to play, and they shouldn't have signed up. Having a set-up where players only have to participate every few days, openly encourages lazy play.
You're assuming people only post every couple of days.
Then I'm afraid I don't understand what your issue is. The mods have total freedom to set their games up the way they choose; the community here enjoys 14 day time frames, so that's what most mods choose. You can choose to play in that meta, or you can choose not to. It's 100% a you thing.
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In post 0, Jamiet99uk wrote:Seriously MafiaScum, what gives? What is the reason for a two-week day phase? It seems totally unnecessary for the phase to be anywhere near that long.
Not everyone has as much free time as you. That's just the way things are. There are other sites if you want to have shorter deadlines.
I know I for one may look at the site a lot but even then Im not one whos going to sit there every 10-15 mins to look and make a new post. I have a job. Other half and other hobbies as well. I dont see this taking up my whole day with something like a 48 hr day phase. Take 16 out for sleep you have 32 Hrs Minus 16 on average for the 2 days of work. Your at 16 Now take away things like cooking and cleaning and showering. You have 10 hrs free in two days. Thats really not a lot of time. Not counting commute and what not as wel
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"person who has barely played mafia comes to a mafia forum that has existed since before he was born and tells them they're playing the game wrong? what??"
I work 5-6 days a week so having a two-week deadline gives me time to read the thread and re-read it. In my previous game that just finished, I was not able to be around as much as I would have liked to.
In post 33, Thestatusquo wrote:"person who has barely played mafia comes to a mafia forum that has existed since before he was born and tells them they're playing the game wrong? what??"
That's the way of the young folk. Us old people are always doing everything wrong.
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Regarding your question, I'm not sure why it's this way but if you've played mafia on other sites, you'll probably find that MS is the worst out of all the websites for various reasons which I will list:
1. The long day phases in theory should allow for better play as people spend more time thinking out what they want to write and craft well thought out plans to execute as both town and scum. This is not the case. The longer days allow for a toxic meta to fester on all of the threads which include but are not limited to:
a. Thread spamming for 14 days leaving other players with hundreds of pages to have to read through in order to catch up on a single day phase.
b. Constant AFKing/declaring vacation or leave from the game to avoid being pressured and coast through to end-game i.e. not really playing the game.
2. Over-reaching mods who play the role of kindergarten teachers, basically half-assing their jobs and allowing all forms of passive aggressive behavior through the hoops, but banning/force replacing any player that actually gets into a heated debate. It is a legitimate strategy on this website to report a good player that you provoke into an argument in order to have a moderator force replace them out of the game for being too hostile.
These two factors have caused MS to lead into a meta where the play is focused on 'niceness' and people cannot be mean. Games just slowly trudge on quietly with people ignoring each other if they feel the pressure and declare V/LA.
I personally HATED this meta when I first joined this site having played on EM and MU, but now I LOVE LOVE LOVE MAFIA SCUM!!!! I just love working my full time job and passive-aggressively being an asshole to people knowing there is nothing that will be done to me about it, basically unleashing all of my frustrations on strangers and not giving a shit about the outcome of the game I am playing. Once I realized that MS is a place to use people as human verbal punching bags , it really opened my eyes to the possibilities that this site offers which I previously did not see before.
It's really not for everyone, some people think there are very questionable ethics involved in this type of behavior and those people don't belong here, but as for everyone else, once you understand the purpose a website like this serves, you will learn to love and embrace it. If it were up to me, I would make day phases a year long and sign for 50 concurrent games.
2. Over-reaching mods who play the role of kindergarten teachers, basically half-assing their jobs and allowing all forms of passive aggressive behavior through the hoops, but banning/force replacing any player that actually gets into a heated debate. It is a legitimate strategy on this website to report a good player that you provoke into an argument in order to have a moderator force replace them out of the game for being too hostile.
In post 33, Thestatusquo wrote:"person who has barely played mafia comes to a mafia forum that has existed since before he was born and tells them they're playing the game wrong? what??"
What we are seeing is someone who realized that it would be much simpler to pester an existing site to change their meta to something to suit them; than it would be to start a site with whatever meta on their own.
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I think the standard of 14 days is too long too unless it is a 16+ game. But then only when there are 16+ living players. and still no more than 14 days even if there are 24 players. I think mods should use more discretion and vary deadlines depending on the # a lot more often. I like something like: 12-15 players alive deadline is 10-12days, and then scale down 6-11 players alive is 8-9 days, 3-5 alive is a week.
But I also don't think it should be set in stone. When I've played in-flesh, the moderator just uses the feel of the game to determine when the make everyone start shaping up and decide on a lynch if they are going to. Give a little warning, but make them accountable too. MS relies too much on waiting for deadline to approach to get to lynching and it is bad for play most of the time. Instill a bit of fear of not getting a lynch off and get town off their asses.
In post 24, Jamiet99uk wrote:By the way, I've got loads of time to comment here because the main Central Park game I'm in is currently in a night phase and, as I've learned, over here on MafiaScum you don't let town players participate during night phases because REASONS.
... Because that's the whole point of the night phase?
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In post 10, Sunlit Diamond wrote:I like the longer days. I also come from a blitz-style site. I vastly prefer it here with the longer deadlines and more talk focused play.
You see, for me, where I've come from, 48 hours doesn't seem like a "blitz". 48 hours is LOADS of time if everyone participates.
Mafiascum appears to encourage very lazy participation.
oh look, another person coming in to MS to insult the way we play
it encourages thoughtful participation instead of your run of the mill spamfest bullshit
